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      24 hours ago

      Nice. But still. This will end in the next 1-2yrs I assume, as one is urged to upgrade to the ps5?

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        Then why ask if all games will run offline forever? You clearly don’t care if your games will run offline forever if you think that the next console has any bearing on the matter.

        You must be young. I still have my PlayStation 2 from when I was a kid. Works with every game I ever got for it. Same for n64, game boy, etc.

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            12 hours ago

            Ooo, you just reminded me I’m in the middle of xenogears on my phone (duckstation ftw also whew caught that typo) Love that game. Might as well start over.

            How many lasers you burn through on your ps2?

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          My first and only console was an Atari 2600 with pong being the first ever played game. Guess the youngster is you 😉 Since then I was PC only. I like the option to own everything forever (pirated if no other means available) and archive it forever. Legally this option died 2 decades ago thanks to steam. So I just wondered why the big consoles still allow this.

          Run forever is nice, but it also ends with the end of your ps4 then. So “forever” is kinda bound to that life. My Atari cartridges are still here and might even still work, but no consoles left and why would I even after 4 decades.

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            Dude I have a working 2600. I think. It worked 5 years ago but I don’t have a good two bolt connector (idk what it’s called. The one with two bolts) to hdmi convertor

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              Awesome… Are there even adaptors? It was an analog antenna-signal. If there is one, it’s probably not cheap. I dunno. If the cartridges still work after 40yrs is doubtful, isn’t it? Got pacman, qbert, space invaders, star wars and whatnot lying in my old-stuff-shrine 😁

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                do you remember Montezuma’s Revenge? i loved that game. also the one that had you plug in a 10-key thing to play some space game (i have lost the 10-key thing and the cart for that so idk)

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                  It just rings a bell, but that’s about it. But I remember the early copy protections…like these paper wheels to scroll through symbols to enter a code before playing.

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            Legally this option died 2 decades ago thanks to steam. So I just wondered why the big consoles still allow this.

            Huh? I don’t think Valve wrote any laws about this, or even lobbied for them.

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              No they didn’t, they just relied on people prefering the “easy” way. Buy+download+play. But you can’t trade your games. Your license is tied to you. Physical media died due to steam. Hence trading and ownership. There is just GOG left where you buy stuff which is DRM-free and yours forever. BUT only old titles and SOME newer.

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                19 hours ago

                That’s just providing better service than piracy, not any change in what is legal. Physical media is unrelated (or barely related)

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                  Changing the market can surely be legal. Doesn’t change it that steam killed trading used games. And yes, it’s mostly better than piracy. At least more comfortable.