President Trump called FIFA President Gianni Infantino to discuss the red card given to Team USA’s Folarin Balogun during Wednesday night’s game against Bosnia and Herzegovina, an person familiar with the conversation told The Hill. Trump later cheered the reversal, calling it an “injustice.”

FIFA said its independent panel overturned the red card suspension for Monday’s game.

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      how the fuck did this piece of shit become a billionaire when everything turns to fucking shit? Boggles the mind.

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        Because half of Trump voters still think his family did not gain wealth from his presidencies.

        When your voting base is this ignorant, corruption and deregulation festers, feeding into the ignorance/corruption cycle ad nauseum.

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        Well to be honest, because we made laws to make it so. If he had been born a plank of wood, and never spoke, walked, or did anything. He would be a billionaire today. We made bankruptcy laws to make sure the rich couldn’t become poor by accident. Set bankruptcy at 10% of ones net worth, and every billionaire would fight it. Say you can sell a company was worth 1.4 billion, you can declare bankruptcy and it will cost pennies comparatively. The people who lose their houses are struggling, the companies don’t lose anything but a oops.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised for a second if he announced %100 tariffs for Belgian beer and chocolate now.

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    So annoying. Government should not give a fuck about games.

    Worse, the people who should care, the sports fans, just keep throwing their money at fifa.

    We are all fucked. Corporate sports and government grift, and people cant stop watching and/or don’t care.

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        That part doesn’t matter. If FIFA is getting a sitting leader of one of the host country governments to interfere with the outcome, it just signals how little the United States cares about the tournament or the sport. FIFA can totally come out and reverse the ruling and tell us why. The fact that they won’t and we are hearing that Trump is involved, will make the world have more distrust. We already denied visas to the referees, players and fans from many countries who wanted to come here for the tournament. This is blatantly cheating.

        If the United States team wants to save face, they need to have Balogun sit out the game tomorrow.

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          You really going to pretend FIFA isn’t already a corrupt clown show? That’s wild.

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              Then why do you care about this reversal? It’s irrelevant to the integrity of FIFA. FIFA has no integrity.

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                Go back and reread the post where everyone is pointing out the fact that a sitting world leader called into FIFA to get a foul overturned.

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                  Go back and read up what a shitty organization FIFA is and has been for decades and reexamine why you’re still so invested in, and giving them your money and attention.

                  It’s quite pathetic, actually.

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                  Their suggestion to how “the team should handle it” is them just whining about something being unfair. The card itself was a joke so the team absolutely should play Balogun.

                  If you don’t like that, stop supporting FIFA and get some actual integrity about issues instead of just being mad about the clown show you’re supporting behaving like a clown show.

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              The tournament itself was a clown show to begin with. Europeans absolutely delusional about the integrity of FIFA.

              The card itself was absurd, and the dictator’s “manipulation” was quite small. If Belgium loses its because they’ve been playing like shit the entire contest, not because US striker’s red card that shouldn’t have been given in the first place—was overturned.

              You shouldn’t be watching the tournament all if you genuinely had any principles about the integrity of FIFA / the World Cup. But you do because you’re completely fine with looking away from all their shittiness because you’re too attached to a sport.

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                Exactly what you said. FIFA removed Ronaldo’s 2 game suspension for no stated reason before the tournament, so this is not just Trump fixing it for the US. This is FIFA having no integrity from the beginning.

                The red was very harsh. The VAR protocol was broken in giving the red. Belgium has been playing like shit.

                And as incredibly sad as it has made me to miss the first World Cup in my country since I’ve been an adult, I’m boycotting it because I am not OK with looking away from their shittiness.

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          No, it does matter. Two things can be wrong. But it is right that the player is not punished for a baseless call or for your other unrelated grievances that have nothing to do with what happened on the field.

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            An outside influence that has NOTHING to do with the game calling the head of the federation is bullshit. You can’t call him to get the call over turned why the fuck does the person who won the fifa peace prize get to do it. Let the coach or the player or the team manager get the call reversed.

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              Exactly. Trump corrupted the process by interfering. The fact that the decision should’ve been reversed became irrelevant the moment Trump decided to call in a favor from his buddy Infantino. It’s no longer about a bad call on the field.

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            Shit calls get made all the time and people just live with it. The president of a shithole country should not interfere.

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            yes and your mommy should call the principal and get your punishment revoked because you are a precious little petal

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        Not what experts say and more importantly not relevant.

        This is know about corruption. The only honorable thing for the US to do now is forfait.

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            I guess that’s the American fan experts then - but again, that’s irrelevant , this is not a excuse for corruption. US should forfait

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          Now show the Messi boot in someone’s calf during this tournament, and the half dozen other worse infringements that didn’t even result in a yellow card

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            Read my earlier response in this thread that already agrees that Messi should have also been shown a red card for his challenge. It was more intentional than this one.

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              Ok, but Messi didn’t get a red card. So we just get some players with different rules than others? Seems like refs are just making it up as they go, not a good look for the sport.

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                100%. I suspect there was “guidance” on protecting Messi given the marketing $$ and this intervention by Trump for the host country was unacceptable for an arguable valid red card.

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              i saw one player BARELY get touched, and he was on the ground writhing in pain. Like??

              Imagine one of these pansies playing rugby. They wouldn’t last a day.

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          Ok. Now show it in video instead. It was an accident. The still frame looks bad, and it probably should have been called a yellow, but it didn’t meet the criteria for a red card.

          If you think it still should be a red after all that, please explain why Messi doing the same thing on purpose wasn’t.

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            I agree. Messi should also have received a red. The fact that he did not even get a yellow was a terrible call.

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            it dose not matter if it was an accident… he could have injured the player… either they are in control or they are just flailing out there like any one of us could

            the usa is a fucking joke… fifa is a fucking joke… soccer is a great sport and these two loser entities are just making everything they touch worthless…

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              Except it does matter. Reckless unintentional fouls are still a yellow card.

              I’m not going to disagree about either the US (government) in general or FIFA in specific though.

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                The rules are a red card can be issued for multiple Sending-off offences with one of those being Serious Foul Play.

                Serious foul play

                A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force.”

                International Football Association Board rules

                “The Laws embody the unacceptability of unsafe play in their disciplinary phrases, e.g. ‘reckless challenge’ (caution = yellow card/YC) and ‘endangering the safety of an opponent’ or ‘using excessive force’ (sending-off = red card/RC).”

                In this instance you can see how a referee would see this being beyond a reckless challenge given the potential serious injury that could have occurred.

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                  Yes, a Red is about lunging at an opponent with excessive force in challenging for the ball. That is not what happened. He was moving sideways through the air and needed to put his foot down somewhere. His opponent was also moving sideways through the air and put his foot down in front of where Balogun was going to. If you watch the video, you can even see that the other player kicked Balogun’s foot FIRST, which changed the trajectory of Balogun’s leg, then put his leg in front of Balogun’s foot.

                  Sure, call it a yellow for careless play in being in the air without full control. But this was not reckless or violent.

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    Whether the red card was bullshit or not it irrelevant. Sports fans everywhere know that shit calls get made. The issue is that a sitting president called up his buddy who happens to be the president of FIFA and had it overturned. That is fucking insane.

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      How is it an issue??? You act like as if he didn’t fuk and kill little girls. This is nowhere close to issue, most dictators do this kind of things in football

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      I feel like it would have been overturned regardless, as it was an egregiously bad call, but I agree that Trump should have plenty of better things to fill up his schedule with than calling up the FIFA president to complain about a red card in a game of footie. It’s a bad look, because now it looks like Trump had a hand in influencing the decision and the fairness and integrity of the game is called into question.

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        The thing is, FIFA put in rules that the Red could not be overturned. They removed the appeal process. What FIFA should have done was say there was a VAR protocol error (there actually was), which invalidates the procedure to give the Red. They didn’t take that easy out. Instead they make it completely obvious that this was corruption and not a mistake.

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    Reminder of the sponsors of this tournament: Edit: Budweiser and Hisense are also sponsors

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    the red card was def harsh don’t get me wrong. balogun clearly didn’t mean to do that, but it’s understandable to preserve a level of safety in the game. you have FIFA saying at first that the FA will not rescind the red card given to balogun, then suddenly the president himself calls infantino and now the red card is suspended? come on. had this happened to belgium there would be uproar from so many americans. it is 1)insanely corrupt and 2) sets a very bad precedent cause now any country can just ask to get their bookings for players reversed. this is getting long but anyways please pirate all your world cup games!!

    Edit: LOOOOOLLL GET FUCKED AMERIKKKA daddy trump literally cheated for them and they still lost what a bunch of clowns

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        I learned that IPTV in some countries is very popular for live feeds when my shitty over the air antenna was having issues and I didn’t want to bother subscribing to some crappy app trial for a game or two. Now I know that PBS even broadcasts some of their channels as IPTV over the internet and the TV signal just points it at the stream’s URL. Also, ATSC 3.0 is a fiasco for over the air TV, I think that will be the end of broadcast TV. It was fun while it lasted for live events.

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      I have to say, this is so strangely captivating, I can’t stop looking at it honestly! Weirdly in sync between the two very different approaches! I have zero idea why this is so enthralling but I couldn’t just scroll away without explicitly voicing my confused enjoyment, so peculiar

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        I think its simply empathy, both are looking like they have a fun time and we want to join them.

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          Seems like they’re in front of a bunch of kids telling a story or singing a song, or something?

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            Yep. Specifically a variation/verse on/of “The Wheels on the Bus,” though I didn’t watch enough of the full video to find out why there seems to be a baby on the bus?

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              My nephew does that when dancing to Wheels on the Bus at the part with the babies on the bus. He’s probably seen this video

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    He will call Infantino about those four unfair goals against the American team, too.

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    Really funny seeing people sob over the integrity of the sport as if FIFA isn’t actively buying votes to line their pockets and hosting tournaments to sports-wash theocratic slave states (USA included).

    The card system never made sense for international knockout play anyway because one ref with a grudge can, more or less, unilaterally eject a team from the tournament. Almost nobody has the depth to deal with a red card.

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    Funny. The American ambassador in Belgium has claimed trump didn’t and wouldn’t ever do something like that

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    Unfortunately anything beyond this point is tainted. The only thing that can save this is the USA coach deliberately not fielding Balogun.

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      The card was absurd in the first place, they absolutely should field Balogun.

      FIFA is a comically corrupt organization; of course it’s going to do shit like this, if you don’t like it stop watching world cups and supporting FIFA. Otherwise you’re just whining the clown show didn’t perform the act you wanted it to.

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          Except for when Messi did worse… in fact wasn’t even a yellow card. Imagine defending FIFA’s clown show. Europeans really need to acknowledge: World Cup is an absolute joke, as long as FIFA runs it.

          Whining about what’s fair is pathetic when you support such a shitty, corrupt organization.

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          Except a red needs to either have intent behind it or have very reckless play behind it. This was just one player being in the air while another player moves his leg into the space where the first player would be landing. That isn’t reckless. You can call it careless for leaving the ground and not having a clear space to land, but reckless needs to have more behind it.

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          we either have rules or we don’t. Otherwise, we will be second guessing ref calls with social media polling of fanboys.

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            FIFA doesn’t have rules. This isn’t even the first time it happened; Ronaldo this tournament and the 1962 world cups . Messi didn’t get carded for something worse, and Balogun did. The refs make it up as they go.

            Europeans need to stop supporting FIFA… but they won’t because they’re completely fine with turning a blind eye for its corruption.

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              What Messi did was not worse.

              You should look at the video, they both do something similar at the beginning, but they diverge sharply.

              Messi should have been carded, but he didn’t do anything worse than balogun.

              The part where balloons foot lands on the other players ankle is where it goes from a yellow to a red. It was reckless and could have seriously injured another player.

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                Messi didn’t even get a yellow card for it. They have different rules for different players and always have.

                Hating on the Balogun reversal is peak mental gymnastics to try and justify FIFA is somehow legitimate in how they run their tournaments… They aren’t. Stop watching them. The Balogun is par for the course with FIFA, it’s not more outrageous than other shit they do, or don’t do. Seems like you’re just mad at who they benefitted this time, because there’s half a dozen other red-card qualified plays that didn’t result even in a yellow you could bring up from this tournament, too.

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                Just because his foot lands on an ankle does not make it go to a red. The other player put his foot in the path of Balogun’s. That moves it from reckless down to careless.

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        The number of downvotes you have is depressing. FIFA has been insanely corrupt since its inception, a fact that’s been well-documented. Anyone that chooses to grandstand over this, while continuing to watch the games, is ignorant at best.

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    i.e. someone within trumps inner circle or trump himself had a bet placed on mondays game and called in a favour.