Smart glasses equipped with cameras, microphones, and AI are a creeping privacy and security nightmare, prompting backlash.

And rightfully so.

  • br3d@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The thing is, I’d love glasses with a private display. Imagine walking around a strange city with maps displayed in your vision, or giving a talk and having your notes in your view. Specs with screens! But why would I also want a camera? If I wanted to photograph something I can use my phone - perhaps using my SpecScreen as a viewfinder, sure, but the camera can happily live in my phone still. Basically, I’m worried the perverts are going to ruin glasses with HUDs for the rest of us. There must be dozens of us non-perverts, surely?

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      12 hours ago

      You don’t have the cameras for taking picture but for augmented reality. For example maybe for your maps, it would place arrows in the right spots, or labels to identify landmarks on the landmarks themselves. It might highlight how far ahead the crosswalk is.

      Starting to get in the grey area but as someone horrible with names, I want it to tell me who I’m talking to

    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.works
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      1 day ago

      How would a view like that work without a camera? It needs to see streets to display the map accurately since GOS could only be accurate within 5meters sometimes.

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      1 day ago

      There are plenty of legit use cases for a camera. Traveling in a foreign place the glasses could overlay text in your language. Looking at a transit table it could highlight the correct route and time. And anytime you meet someone new it could store their name and face in a database.

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        15 hours ago

        And anytime you meet someone new it could store their name and face in a database.

        Enough of this dystopian bullshit! Or was that satire?

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          10 hours ago

          It was a bit self-satirical. But it would be really helpful for me, if it existed. I’m not about to buy a face camera but I can imagine some people in sales might like such a feature.

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            10 hours ago

            If someone in sales is logging and recording my interactions with them, storing my name and face in a database and feeding it into facial recognition software, then I’m not buying anything from them.

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        17 hours ago

        one of the leaked “test” features that everyone hated was the facial recognition…and i get it. lot’s of opertunity for abuse. Shame though as that would be SO usfull to those with prosopagnosia or people like me who have an inability to remember names. It has hurt me profesionaly throughout my life. having the name and a few relivent facts about people pop up would just put me on the same playing field with those who can remember.

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        1 day ago

        does that utility outweigh the privacy of the public though?

        Shame it’s meta because the answer will always skew towards invading privacy and shitting on the others.

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          18 hours ago

          Exactly. Navigating a city isn’t really that hard from a phone, even if you don’t speak the language. You don’t need to be staring at it the whole time if you learn how to just orient yourself on a street grid. Having a HUD for that purpose might be a neat trick, but not at the expense of being constantly recorded.

        • JayGray91🐉🍕@piefed.social
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          18 hours ago

          Maybe antlion already replied to you (because I see two replies below your post but one is removed/deleted) but I didn’t take antlion’s comment as if it outweigh the privacy invasion.

          Though, it is a shame that all the cool tech and legit use cases are for nothing because it’s packaged with invasive spyware.

        • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 day ago

          There is no privacy in public, by definition of those two words. I’m less concerned about a camera on somebodies face, and more concerned about the legality of doing facial recognition, and identifying and tracking of people without their explicit consent. See one is about the personal utility of camera-interfaced computing, and the other is corporate espionage. But unless lawmakers can draw that line and enforce it, we will probably just end up with spyware.

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            There is no privacy in public, by definition of those two words.

            creep. so quick to carve out the rules by which you and other can invade the privacy of individuals. you know there’s a difference between general photography and this. you know this. I don’t have to explain it to you.

            you’re just a creep who wants to creep on women and kids.

            • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              10 hours ago

              You caught me. I go around with my wife and daughter so I can get away with being a creep. Don’t tell the moms on the playground.

              • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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                9 hours ago

                if you cared about them you’d care about this. the fact that you immediately jump to legal definitions created in the age of film is absurd; there was never a minox that had 4k video, but that’s what we’re looking at these days. and you don’t seem to care that there’s a booming market to disable the recording lights.

                If I were your wife and daughter I’d be creeped out by you.

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                  7 hours ago

                  You don’t know shit about me bro. Creepers gonna creep. If they want to hide a camera they can do it in lapel pin or something. Being paranoid about it won’t stop anything. Making legislation to require a recording light will just de-tune the public’s vigilance when they don’t see a light. It won’t stop people from taking discrete photos. If you’re scared of having your photo taken, stay inside. There are a huge number of automatic license plate cameras owned by corporations logging your plates. They may also be capturing and analyzing your face. That is a lot more concerning to me than some dude wearing glasses.

                  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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                    6 hours ago

                    Creepers gonna creep.

                    and you want them to have better equipment to creep with.

                    they want to hide a camera they can do it in lapel pin or something.

                    lapel pin cameras are shitty resolution, and you can’t point them at your target by moving your head.

                    stop acting like it’s not a problem. I’m not scared of having MY photo taken, it’s the upskirts on escalators and creeps peering down blouses, you dolt.

                    I despise license plate cameras, but that’s an entirely different kind of invasion of privacy and you KNOW this.

                    I know you’re not concerned by some dude wearing glasses, and I can see you don’t give two fucks about those who are.

    • cyberfae@piefed.social
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      Same. I even have a pair that I’m working on setting up as an accessibility device, but i worry that even with the camera looking thing taped, that it’s going to cause issues, especially since I’ll have a visible wire hooked up to a raspberry pi.

      EDIT: I forgot to specify that this is a viture luma and not the meta raybans, which i wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole

    • fizzle@quokk.au
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      A while ago I would have agreed with this whole heartedly.

      Now I’m old and grumpy and everything seems like a can / should question where the “should” part is only satisfied if a really significant problem is solved, because the “can” part always requires a trade off that is rarely worth the cost.