• BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world
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    I will absolutely never be able to understand the appeal he has to some people. Nor can I forgive those idiots for falling for his obvious fucking horseshit.

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      It’s easier to understand if all you watch is right wing media and your algorithm is tuned that way. Remember, you’re in a bubble and so are they and things look very different from one to the other.

      Not saying that as an excuse for evil, just hope it helps with understanding. Things would probably get better if we’re could pop some bubbles.

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        I grew up in that kind of environment and I still don’t understand it. My parents were the sort that used their bedroom TV as an alarm clock; it was set to turn on at 05:55 to the Fox News channel so they wouldn’t miss any of Fox & Friends while they got ready in the day. Commute to work? Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, Laura Schlessinger, etc. Back at home, up until dinner was served? More Fox News.

        And even with the experience of growing up around that – I still just can’t understand it. Yes, those people are dumb as fuck but still; the inability to recognize that he’s a bad conman is just baffling. The same people that ranted about “coastal elites” decided to elect a pompous asshole from a coastal state with a fucking golden toilet and a scam university.

        Baffling. Just fucking baffling.

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          It’s a terrifying abuse of human brain’s defense wiring.

          At a tribal level/time when we are not under stress, we often disagree and bicker. However, when the tribe is threatened, those disagreements take a back seat to survival. If the stress is constant, our brain structure begins to change. Empathy is reduced, to better allow for defence/warfare.

          The modern right is designed to hijack these mechanisms. The constant flow of fear puts the brain into a warfare state. Tribe becomes everything, with internal issues being put on a back burner till the threat is over. However, the threat is never over. It shifts and changes, but is never gone. Eventually, out-tribe empathy becomes harder and harder, while internal disagreement becomes almost impossible. In a tribe preparing for war, this is life-saving. For a political party, it’s an unthinking, pliant mob to control.

          Breaking out requires breaking that internal cycle. Recognising you are being manipulated, and internally countering the effects. Most people just can’t do that. Deprogramming the damage is a job of generations, and that’s assuming it’s no longer being reinforced.

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          It’s an identity cult, their identity is tied to his. The can’t reject him because they would be rejecting themselves and their ego can’t take the hit. This is why people need professional help to leave cults.

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          It’s an identity cult, their identity is tied to his. The can’t reject him because they would be rejecting themselves and their ego can’t take the hit. This is why people need professional help to leave cults.

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          Me too. Logic and faith and compassion led me far away. Thankful my parents saw the insanity and bailed. Hoping more people do too.

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      They are the people who populate the bottom 3rd of the bell curve &/or the psychopaths and sociopaths of humanity.

      They don’t understand how anything works, so they are the easiest to manipulate and con into eating dogshit.

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        That’s not completely true though, which is why I find it so baffling. My mother was a professor that taught English literature and Greek mythology, my step father wasn’t nearly as educated but he designed trusses for new buildings. They weren’t / aren’t the bottom 3rd of the bell curve but they still fell for this assholes promises.

        I think being an idiot makes it more likely that somebody will like Trump, but it’s not the full story. Conservatism, specifically the desire for a stratified society led by an authoritarian that will protect them and punish “the other” is a far greater indicator I believe.

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          Yes, there are certainly a portion who are brainwashed/indoctrinated through propaganda, but I consider it more likely that universal education, and what was deemed socially-acceptable by the majority/community, were suppressing the base instincts of those who are empathetically deficient.

          Now that capitalism and technology have simultaneously isolated us from our local communities, destroyed the social contract, and can deliver us sociopath-curated-propaganda and misinformation algorithmically, those people no longer feel the need to hide their terrible beliefs or personalities.

          Narcissism is being made socially desirable and acceptable. It is a largely-manufactured mental illness epidemic.

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            There is a difference between Knowledge and Critical Thinking.

            Knowledge is what you know, but Critical Thinking Skills are how you properly think and manage that knowledge. It’s possible to have knowledge, yet not know how to think properly. It’s even common, as we all witness around us every day.

            Lots of people know stuff, and think that makes them smart. It’s how you think that makes you smart, and that require Critical Thinking Skills, which Conservatives actively try to supress in schools. They claim it causes students to question authority, which it does.

            Questioning authority is the entire fucking point.

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        NO HE DOESN’T.

        I will die on this fucking hill. Nothing he’s ever said has sounded remotely intelligible. He’s just the racist grandpa rambling, 100% of the time, and I’m incredibly disappointed how people see otherwise.

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        Lol no the fuck he doesn’t. He doesn’t have anything but shit in his pants at any given time of day. The fact you said this makes me think you’re some kind of teenaged idiot troll.

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    There’s a lot of people who shouldn’t be looked at that way

    He means there’s a list of people the law should not apply to.

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    Journalists worth their salt need to stop saying “the USA” and start saying “the Trump regime” if they care about the truth at all (and journalists used to be all about that).

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      I’m not saying I like it, but it’s a very common thing in journalism, and not a sign of incompetence. They rarely say “Putin’s regime” or “Xi Jinping’s regime”, it’s usually Russia or China or Japan or Germany or whatever.

      It’s understood that this does not apply to each and every one of its citizens, but to its regime.

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      The Epstein regime perfectly represents the USA in its most honest form. And I thank Trump for being so much more honest than previous American presidents

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    The worst part is - he’s lying. Yes he’s protecting Netanyahu but the reason the US opposes the ICC is so this jackass (or any jackass we “elect”) can’t get indicted like Bibi did. His demented rapist shriveled brain thinks “muwhaha I’ll say we’re doing it to protect Bibi so they’ll never know . . .”

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      His demented rapist shriveled brain thinks “muwhaha I’ll say we’re doing it to protect Bibi so they’ll never know …”

      Yeah this. And the rest of his posse, some of them able to think coherently: “that’s a bit transparent, but it doesn’t matter anyhow. His constituency will lap it up, his opponents can be ridiculed for screeching into the void once again.”

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    Who cares what MAGA wants? They have no jurisdiction, no say, in this. Ignore these losers, and get their cells ready.