• Venator@lemmy.nz
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    7 hours ago

    Mechanic: gets shit wage despite the owner making bank on basic services…

    Barrista: gets lower minimum wage because tips, then tips get stolen by the digital tip system…

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      15 hours ago

      Why is that our problem as customers, though? Why are we expected to subsidize worker wages instead of employers actually paying the workers that are critical to their success? Why do we let employers get away with the insultingly paltry wage of $2.15/hour?

      Don’t get me wrong, if you use a service where workers are reliant on tips, you should tip, but I’d rather just avoid the hassle most of the time. I’d eat out a fair bit more often if not for the not-mandatory-but-totally-mandatory 15-20% extra to subsidize the owner’s greed.

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        13 hours ago

        AFAIK baristas start at the normal minimum wage, but servers get that crazy low tipped minimum wage.

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          13 hours ago

          I think you’re right, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s irrelevant. It is not my responsibility as a customer to make sure someone’s employees get paid adequately. That’s the responsibility of their employer. If they can’t afford to run their business while paying their workers appropriately, then I’m really sorry your goals didn’t work out, but you’re running a failed business and just haven’t admitted it yet.

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            13 hours ago

            We all do what we can. When I’m doing carry out, No way am i going to tip for a non tipped position.

            If I’m eating out in a society where servers depend on tips by law basically, i didn’t have to eat out, so I’m going to pay what’s expected of me.

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              13 hours ago

              If I’m eating out in a society where servers depend on tips by law basically, i didn’t have to eat out, so I’m going to pay what’s expected of me.

              Sure, I do the same thing. I just opt to do that significantly less often than I might otherwise. At least for my service, it has cost restaurants far more than it has saved them on labor.

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    Not the same service.

    Tip culture is a bitch but this type of meme hide the real problem and tried to make us fight ourselves.

    In both instances boss are asshole that extract surplus value from our work, burn them

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      21 hours ago

      That $150 isn’t going straight to the mechanic, they get a fraction of that. Rest goes to the support staff, keeping the lights on, and general profits.

      Mechanics, especially at dealership, get what’s called flat rate set by the how long manufactures expects a job to take.

      For an oil changes, if the mfq estimates 30min, the mechanic gets paid for 30min regardless if the job takes 10 minutes or 2 hours. Guess what they’re incentivized to do? Rush jobs and finding excuses to do shit that doesn’t need to be done.

      Need someone else’s help with something? That person doesn’t get paid for helping you out, so guess who doesn’t want to help/train the new guys.

      How about tools? Most mechanics are expected to supply their own tool, minus the big shop wide stuff, so most spend tens of thousands of dollars over the years.

      I remember a job add on the radio “guaranteed 60 hours and work on saturdays”.

      Realistically I’d love “mandatory tips” to go away all together. People who are hired to a job, do their job and get paid by their employer. Anything on top is extra. Both the mechanic and baritsa should be paid proper wages from the start.

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      1 day ago

      You’re right. And the mechanic probably makes 1/4 of that. The shop doesn’t even make 150 an hour by the time you count for costs.