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      I remember that. I never liked him (but voted for him over the pedophile rapist, Donald Trump), but at that point I really started to think he was an actual piece of shit.

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        I wasn’t a fan myself. I resented the hell out of him for entering the race in 2020 and outing Bernie. I don’t like to talk about it much because it makes me seem like a Bernie bro but as far as I’m concerned the democratic establishment did everything they could to keep a socialist out of the whitehouse. The entire primary was political theater to dilute the socialist agenda and Biden only entered the race when it was clear that, even with his base split between him and warren, nothing was going to stop Sanders.

        BUT, as someone who spent time in the trade unions I swallowed my pride and voted for Biden. I didn’t expect much, but I did expect a damn democrat to do what they always say they would do and support the union block.

        2020 was the moment. It was the last time I actually thought we could turn things around. Ever since that primary I’ve just been waiting for us to go the way of the USSR.

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        What did they do? Run against him in primaries and let people vote for the other person?

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          Super delegates come to mind. They mostly sided with Hillary. Without the Superdelegates, Bernie was never far behind Hillary in terms of delegates. And since the media reported the super delegates who had at this point only pledged to vote for Hillary as if they were obligated to vote for her as if they were normal delegates, this probably demoralized Bernie voters.

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            They rigged the primary for Hillary, an action they were later forced to admit to and defend in court.

            They also let Hillary seize campaign funds from down ballot races and screwed over half of their own candidates. It was ironically called the Clinton Victory Fund.

            Fuck ‘centrists’. They’re all fascists too.

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              It’s crazy they couldn’t see the excitement Bernie was creating. The only one who was excited for Hillary was Hillary.

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                There’s no alliance to be made with the party that’s decided it serves the enemy.

                Wall Street is the enemy. No party that takes corporate donations at all can claim not to be serving the enemy.

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                    People advocating for doing the exact same thing that made Trump viable as a candidate to begin with don’t get to use Trump as a cudgel. Fuck all the way off with that nonsense.

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        IMHO it was clear Trump would win 2024 when Biden was nominated in 2020. America demands change and corporate centrists will just enrage them more.

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          I figured Biden might lose to another Republican, but I underestimated Trump. During the Biden admin, Trump was doing a masterful job of “leading from the opposition.”

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          At the time, Biden was promising that he wouldn’t run a second time, and let the primaries pick his hopeful successor. Unfortunately he went back on that promise

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            Even if he hadn’t run again, his refusal to deal with the real economic problems facing working class whites in flyover states handed them to Trump on a silver platter. “Nothing will fundamentally change” is unacceptable to a farmer losing everything, so they voted to burn it all down.

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            Because without fail, every ShitLib who espoused “vote for Biden and then we can push him left” was back at brunch before the inauguration.