An article about her work at Oculus and Meta: XR Update

No Frame today, it looks like.

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    Is it true that their only like 5 engineers (exaggerated obviously and rule all of valve code)?

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    Meta’s push towards virtual and augmented reality has clearly been a massive failure from the billions they invested into the “metaverse” only to come up with a shitty VRChat clone that lasted mere months. Meanwhile the only reason they’re really in the news lately is because they stole Google’s failed smart glasses concept, paired up with Ray-Ban and made the ultimate tool for creeps to record and harass women without their consent.

    Valve are wise to poach their talent who have undoubtedly been throigh wave after wave of mass layoffs. The only other more significant hire they could have made other than Amanda would have been somehow bringing the fourth-dimensional being housed in a meatsuit known as John Carmack on board. But he’s busy with AGI.

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      I can’t give you anything more than an upvote, so here’s a positive comment on your insightfulness/accuracy +1

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    Wouldn’t it be great if turning that giant valve actually did something. Like…I dunno, someone in the next room shouts “turn that back on right now !”

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    Has there been any news on some kind of proper VR desktop? Not a version of windows but something that is a new OS shell and can be used with a keyboard and allows task switching and using multiple VR apps at once?

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        It should definitely be on the basis of linux, but not really what I mean. I mean a UI OS shell optimized for VR and things like eye tracking and controllers and how to switch from controller to keyboard. This is like an unsolved problem afaik. Like IOS and android designed a new shell for a non-desktop platform. I read a bit about Apple Vision Pro how they designed their UI widgets with eye tracking in mind.

        At the minimum I want to be able to play a VR game like Elite Dangerous and pull up a video chat panel or browser window / notepad to look up stuff without exiting the game.

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    Good for her. Valve doesn’t run on the same talent recycling process you see in much of the industry. They’re small and retain talent.

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      I agree with the sentiment, and I’m sure Valve are one of the better companies to work for, so I’m happy for her…

      But Valve aren’t small.

      They ARE the PC gaming industry. They generate billions in revenue and control something like 75% of the global PC distribution market. I know they keep trying to sell themselves as just a small company, because they’re a small internal team, but I really wish they’d snap out of it and scale up a bit to match their market. Especially when talking about their hardware side. I live in New Zealand, and the number of conversations I’ve had with people who have gone to some pretty extreme lengths to get a hold of Valve hardware is ridiculous. I’m not even talking about the new stuff, I mean the damn Steam Deck. I find it incredibly frustrating to hear people refer to them as a small company. Jolla is a small company. Valve is not.

      Anyway, sorry, /rant

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        Neither Jolla nor Valve are small companies, 200 and 350 (ish) employees respectively. But company size has nothing to do with revenue or profit, it’s literally just people on the payroll and a cutoff of your choosing.

        I don’t think it’s really fare to compare the distribution capabilities of a hardware company vs a software/service company, though. And doesn’t this hiring kind of imply they’re expanding their hardware side?

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          From employee count they both would easily fit the legal US definition of a small business, as that’s usually 500 or fewer, but can be as high as 1500 in some industries, depends what they’d be classified as.
          Some are just directly about revenue too, so you could in theory be too big to be a small business even if it’s just a single person - and by that standard, Valve is obviously not fit to be a small business.

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            I was being vague about the cutoff because Jolla isn’t in the US and I didn’t want to look up every country’s definition lol

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            Whoa, I think in many other countries it’s small upto 50. 500 feels so high - the ceo wouldn’t even know everyone.

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    It’s great if you can work for a company that hires the actual smart people instead of management.

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    why does this have so many upvotes? when did a bunch of neets turn this place into linkedin

    edit: i just realised you’re all virgins and this is a girl getting a job so you think if you give updoots she’ll hold your hand

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      Says a lot about you that, of all of her achievements and qualifications, and the fact that she not just revolutionized but practically created the field of consumer-grade wireless VR… you get stuck on her being a woman.

      God’s menagerie is vast, but the fences are low.

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        im not questioning the woman im questioning the number of upvotes for such a boring and meaningless post

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      I never considered it before, but do you think she might? Maybe pat me on the head and call me a good boy?

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      A mix between r/UpvotedBecauseOfGirl and r/UpvotedForRepresenationOfWomenExcellenceInSTEM

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    I wish I could have a cool job like that instead of this soul crushing one I’ve ended up with

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      Jobs at Valve or Meta are very demanding and people can usually only cope with it if your life is your job and the many hours don‘t feel like working. These people are obsessed with what they are doing. It can be very soul crushing if you either loose that passion or want to have a life outside your job (like friends, a romantic partner, a time intensive hobby etc.).

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        My dude, I wish you nothing but the best of luck. It’s hell out there, but don’t let it get to you. You’re worth it and will find what you need.

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      I was wondering that!

      I thought the Steam Frame was going to be available “soon”, so it came as a bit of a surprise that they just hired someone to work on it.

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        Yes, but it makes sense in relation to other posts. It is just frustrating after longer period of time then a few minutes or hours, or when screenshot like this.

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          The layouts generally have room to state time in relation and the actual time. Even a simple date would be better than only relational. Most hide the real time in a hover over or click on the relational time whoch isn’t captured in a screenshot.

          Social media screenshots are so common it is time to update to show both be default.

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            But then it wouldn’t drive you crazy, and you wouldn’t sign up and find the post just to find out the actual time

            And if you don’t make the conversion then that’s basically stealing /s ^but not really, they actually think like this^

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          I think the compromise is a visual indicator of age - color or an icon indicating recency, in addition to a good old fashioned date timestamp.

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            I’m not a fan of coloring for age of post. Usually the compromise is, when mouse hover it will show the actual date in a on hover popup. How about when clicking the time it changes to a timestamp (and back) or while mouse is hovering / touching the time it changes on the fly (without any hover tip, Edit: I just realized that most people don’t use a mouse on their phone :D also this would require dynamic changing with JavaScript).

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        It makes perfect sense when using the website. The problem isn’t the timestamp, it’s the lazy people who share fuzzy inaccessible screenshots instead of links.

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          it makes sense to include the time passed since posting, yes

          doesn’t make much sense to not include the date and time posted

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          no, it’s not just show me the damn time it was posted. I hate when only relative information is given.

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          So then what you’re saying is it’s not fine. Cause screenshots of Twitter is basically all the internet is these days.

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    I am extremely hopeful about steam frame. Wikipedia says it will still run linux like steamdeck.

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      Given the current chip market there’d be a 400+ USD upcharge from the previously stated price of “below the (Valve) Index”

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        Right and in a year it will be outdated + overpriced hardware, rather than just overpriced. Like, steam box haven’t teached you a thing?

        Upd. Cry and downvote me more, it won’t change a fact that chip in this vr headset already pretty weak: it’s impressive by ARM standards, but not like it can run Cyberpunk, a game that have been released 6 years ago, mind you. And in a year, it will not cost less, it will just be outdated AND overpriced. Yea, not like “overpriced” comes from bad intentions, it just state of the market — why da fuck should I care tho?

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          It’s more than good enough for CPU imo but the GPU is going to really struggle. I think though most people just want onboard processing for the foveated streaming support and plan to use it with an actual PC, where I’ve heard the headset is extremely comfortable and lightweight despite what is then an overspecced processor

          For standalone it should be faster than a Quest 3, so I think it’s a stretch to call it outdated, it’s still not great though

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          I can already run cyberpunk on my pc. I want this so I can now see it in VR in higher quality than my current headset, wirelessly, with a much less bulky format.

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          It might be outdated, but it won’t be overpriced. Meta made it clear their next headset will not be subsidised. And Pico are saying their next headset will be a Apple Vision Pro competitor.

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              It’s not overpriced if that’s what components and comparable hardware costs now and in the future, it’s just the new normal.

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                From the OEM standpoint no, but from the component standpoint the RAM makers are charging far more than the production cost and all of that certainly isn’t going into new production