my brother in Christ, Discord and Teams both need like 2x the RAM so don’t talk to me about that.
I don’t compare a hot-dog to a pile of dog poo and say “it’s good food”.
Idk left side has contacts and groups, right side chat. What exactly is not user-friendly there?
slow to load up
long sync times
high battery drain for mobile users
room concept, as opposed to contact chats
electron app sucks donkeyballs - wastes lots of screen space where no chat is displayed
options way too hard to find at times (like how to add existing rooms to a space)
no online/offline status of contacts
trust model with device verification is unintuitive for non-techie users (admitted this one has improved with the emojis years ago and with cross-device certification)
I could probably find a bunch of more reasons if I thought longer about it. These are all issues that don’t keep me from using the app, but they are severe enough that I can’t convince non-techie friends to use element as a messenger. For matrix, there are superior messengers for sure, albeit those are then limited in functionality.
I don’t compare a hot-dog to a pile of dog poo and say “it’s good food”.
Then what is your definition of lightweight? A command line chat app?
slow to load up
literally loads within 3s
long sync times
maybe if you didn’t open it for a year yes, otherwise it’s in the sub-second area
high battery drain for mobile users
Mine is <1% for the last day. If you don’t setup proper push messaging which then requires the app to constantly wake up - yeah than it might be a problem.
room concept, as opposed to contact chats
How exactly is this a problem?
electron app sucks
Teams is also using Electron Microslop Edition
options way too hard to find at times (like how to add existing rooms to a space)
Just go into the settings and you will find 99%
Moving a room to a space has nothing to do with options and is a very uncommon task.
I’m gonna pile a few on (I’ve mentioned them elsewhere in this thread, but…)
Those aforementioned “rooms?” Element took the ability to search them away but you could still join if you knew the room addr (search may be back now), why? Because of the HUGE CP spam problem those rooms had (have?). I’m not pushing an app that could possibly show my mom that shit.
Onboarding is atrocious, I had to set it up for everyone I tried it with myself, the normies cannot figure it out. "They should get good,” yeah I agree, but they aren’t gonna, so your move.
It pisses metadata to any server you federate with. If you self host a contained ecosystem, maybe, but if you federate with matrix.org (as you almost have to do), the ex AMDOCs employees who started it as an AMDOCs project before breaking off to form The Matrix Foundation get more info than I’m comfortable with considering their history of spying on telecommunications.
Ok I admit some of that isn’t UI issues… still bad.
Rough in which way?
fluxer
I mean there is ‘rough’ and there is stutters while scrolling the main page like it stutters on the site that you linked.
I like element but it’s not nearly as lightweight and user-friendly as I would like it to be.
I assume we talk about the desktop client here.
my brother in Christ, Discord and Teams both need like 2x the RAM so don’t talk to me about that.
Idk left side has contacts and groups, right side chat. What exactly is not user-friendly there?
I don’t compare a hot-dog to a pile of dog poo and say “it’s good food”.
I could probably find a bunch of more reasons if I thought longer about it. These are all issues that don’t keep me from using the app, but they are severe enough that I can’t convince non-techie friends to use element as a messenger. For matrix, there are superior messengers for sure, albeit those are then limited in functionality.
Then what is your definition of lightweight? A command line chat app?
literally loads within 3s
maybe if you didn’t open it for a year yes, otherwise it’s in the sub-second area
Mine is <1% for the last day. If you don’t setup proper push messaging which then requires the app to constantly wake up - yeah than it might be a problem.
How exactly is this a problem?
Teams is also using Electron Microslop Edition
Just go into the settings and you will find 99%
Moving a room to a space has nothing to do with options and is a very uncommon task.
ok guess you last used Element 5+ years ago?
Yeah e.g. Whatsapp and Signal have the exact same problems expect when you keep some (sometimes not encrypted) backup somewhere.
I’m gonna pile a few on (I’ve mentioned them elsewhere in this thread, but…)
Those aforementioned “rooms?” Element took the ability to search them away but you could still join if you knew the room addr (search may be back now), why? Because of the HUGE CP spam problem those rooms had (have?). I’m not pushing an app that could possibly show my mom that shit.
Onboarding is atrocious, I had to set it up for everyone I tried it with myself, the normies cannot figure it out. "They should get good,” yeah I agree, but they aren’t gonna, so your move.
It pisses metadata to any server you federate with. If you self host a contained ecosystem, maybe, but if you federate with matrix.org (as you almost have to do), the ex AMDOCs employees who started it as an AMDOCs project before breaking off to form The Matrix Foundation get more info than I’m comfortable with considering their history of spying on telecommunications.
Ok I admit some of that isn’t UI issues… still bad.