Now, increased demand for traditional fishmeal – which is made from small species caught in the open ocean – has sent the industry scrambling for alternatives.

The stuff being used to make fish feed is a byproduct of the poultry industry – it’s what is left over after the parts of the chicken consumed by humans and the remains used for cat and dog food have been removed.

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      They still… Have meat in their diet? I’ve never understood this argument.

      It reaks of bad faith and bullshit.

      Yes they eat less meat. No they are not a magic wonderland of vegetarians.

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        Yeah, I think you need to look up Indians and their diets better. Some Indians eat meat, others are completely vegetarians, around 50%. I know they have religious rules against eating meat, any meat.

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          It’s really a Hindu, rather than a specifically Indian, thing. But India is majority Hindu, so.

          Hinduism encourages vegetarianism, and it is considered more moral than eating meat since you aren’t killing an animal. However, only Brahmins are required to be vegetarian; other castes can eat non-cow meat if they like, though refraining from doing so is considered better. Since the Brahmins are the highest caste, vegetarianism is a conservative position in India, while the woke SJWs defend religious minorities’ traditions of eating meat.

          But, as has been said, this all means that India has a higher than average proportion of vegetarians, and even the lower-caste vegetarians are no less healthy than foreigners of comparable social class.

          There are also degrees of vegetarianism. A former housemate of mine is a vegetarian for religious reasons, but he didn’t mind eating a cupcake I’d made which he didn’t realise had egg in it.

          One of my current housemates eats meat but his dad is a Brahmin, and said dad can’t even eat vegetarian food that was prepared in cookware which had meat in it at some point. To cater to the really strict Brahmins, there are “double vegetarian” restaurants, where all the food is meat-free and the staff are all vegetarians.

          Indians recognise the word vegan because of English hegemony, but they don’t use it themselves. They refer to such people as “true vegetarians”; I think the Jains fall here.

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      What’s the life expectancy in India vs western countries? Remind me again lol

      I rest my case

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      Yes. As I said in another comment, people raised without animal meet tend to do fine. Most others have a difficult time.

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          Physiologically. Mostly gut biome I imagine. But I’m not doctor, I don’t know specifically what it is. I just know a non zero number of p… It may be an economic issue, being ablke to afford the right food.

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            The gut bacteria thing might make sense, but a lot of people transition. They would then have the new biome. Extra farting and all.

            I think it’s a culture issue, as in the culture teaching you what works and what does not, etc. in terms of eating habits and recipes. Maybe once a robust culture forms around eating vegetarian food where you live, then maybe all the doubts might go away.

            I don’t know, it’s an educated guess. I know they aren’t richer in India, and they are doing fine.

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              I’m not talking about doubts. I’m talking about a group of people who have done it for years, and at some point noticed problems. They go to the doctor and find deficiencies in their bloodwork. Then go to a nutritionist to try to correct for it. Eventually they try eating fish or something for a few days and see improvement, seemingly overnight. They then have meat meals once or twice a week, and do fine on that.

              Certainly we eat far more meat than we need, and the vast majority of us should cut back. But the insistence that meat should be or even could be, entirely eliminated from everyone’s diet today if we all decided to, is just wrong. But if everyone cut back, even to half, perhaps the awful industrial farming conditions could be improved. That would also take some economic policy changes to make happen, but maybe.

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                I agree eating meat can have good affect on people’s health. I don’t agree it’s a simple ‘eating meat is always better’ deal. I personally know people who have trouble with animal protein. Also let’s not forget the deleterious effects of eating red meat.

                I’m not trying to be ‘but what about the bad effects too!’ person. I agree that eating meat can be good for you. I just also think that a whole nation of people eating vegetarian meals all their lives goes to show that it is possible and normal. I also think that a lot of people in that nation would benefit from eating meat, as you pointed out.

                It’s not a question of nutrition.

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        They suffer malnutrition often. Unless they are extremely wealthy.

        For the masses to be healthy we need meat. It’s the way it is.