Doing my part: downvoted, for being irrelevant for 20-30 years. Apple hasn’t done much of anything to keep prices down for decades with some minor exceptions that pale in comparison to shit like a $1000-2000 phone.
And them being shitty about hiding the filesystem on iOS is practically 20 years old now too.
When did Apple generally cost less?
It’s only been sporadically that Apple released really good cheap hardware. The second or third geberation MacBook Air for example was a powerhouse for casual office work. Early M series as well had some good price points. But overall they’ve always charged a lot of RAM and peripherals.
iPhone was always above market, ipad is premium priced (but feels like the only major tablet that gained traction).
The first generation of Arm Mac’s were pretty cost effective.
Yeah, it’s not a hard rule, it’s just not consistent and depends on your upgrades.
If you bought the mid-late 2010s models for example you basically needed ram upgrades, which cost an arm and a leg. Early M1 the swap was fast so RAM was acceptable at defaults, but also if you bought an M1 or M2 Max you really lucked out with LLMs and prices overall. M3 mini at 64gb I think was unbeatable value.
Current gen everything is fucked, but they’re pushing Mac Studio for LLM clusters and so no, they’re not cheaper anymore. They’re cheaper than a $100K GPU.
It never really cost less, but it was there slogan in the 90s.
“Cost less, do more. It’s that simple”.
Makes sense. I bought my first Mac in the mid 2000s (the early Intel models), and back then they were more expensive and did less.
I installed VMware Fusion and Boot Camp and then it did just as much or more than PCs. But the big thing was the total amortized cost was good and printer drivers weren’t pure evil.
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Nice meme from 2007
They looked for an older one but couldn’t one
What’s the latter portion referring to? I don’t keep up with bullshit anymore so no clue what they’re up to these days.
In 2007 when the iPhone was released, from day one the filesystem was obscured from the user. OP is posting some hot off the presses shit!
Files are obviously a nefarious invention by those evil Linux communists!
Big Linux forcing everyone into their ecosystem by being functional.
When did Apple ever cost less (than anything)? 2nd part is spot on.
That particular ad copy was used for the roll out of the Macintosh which debuted in 1993
Apple stuff stopped costing less around 1996.
Before the time of enshittification, the implicit understanding was that every new model would bring significant new benefits at the same price (or minor price increase).
New products were improvements and not oh look new shiny, gimme money or no shiny.
Let’s give credit where credit is due: Apple’s ARM developments are fantastic. IMO, they’re back on track on the innovation front. The price, however, is still very Apple.
That’s called planned obsolescence. And it’s the reason PC is almost always a better deal. Do Mac users actually think that buying a whole new computer every 2-3 years is Mac doing them a favor?
Is this just a shot at apple or did I miss something and they’re trying to “get rid of files”?
They do their best to get rid of any structured file management.
You can’t even access anything but the user documents folder in default Finder anymore.
Its worse on iphones, I was trying to manage a previous staff members iphone recently, and what the phones file browser, windows, and Linux could see were all different, and the phone file browser couldn’t actually access some of the folders Linux could.
You can’t even access anything but the user documents folder in default Finder anymore.
Uh what? Are you saying you “cannot access” anything else because you have to give permissions when asked? Either way it’s patently false. And I’m not a fan of 95% of the things apple does, so don’t think I’m just blindly defending them. I use a Mac for work but I’d rather it be Linux.
I think it is also wrong, apple has never been do more for less, I think OP is dreaming, the get rid of files is because iOS’ file browser isn’t a file browser, it is like Samsung’s file browser, it tries to abstract away the idea of an hieracarchial filesystem which is just a horrible non sensical idea and is actively harmful to their users
I disagree. Currently apple does way more technological advancements than we ever had. Imagine an rtx5090 performance in a small factor of a 300w box. But it is also 96gb of ram on top and it also have the fastest CPU on earth (blender benchmark). The entire Mac mini M6 costs like a single 5090.
And considering how android moves backwards, enshittifies, removing features and adding fuckton of tracking, while apple is moving towards preserving privacy and anti-ai.
Don’t get me wrong, apple is still a walled garden, but they don’t even block you from installing Linux on their apple silicon macbooks.
Um, no. There is no Linux Kernel that you can install to any apple silicon past M3.
Virtual machines do not count.
And considering how android moves backwards, enshittifies,
Android is becoming a closed ecosystem like apple was from the start
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Apple does not preserve privacy, they just collect the data themselves. They are also pushing AI, with their “Apple Intelligence”, so are just as much an offender in that space as anyone.
Also, them “pushing the envelope”, doesn’t really advance much. Nobody can use their phones hardware anyway due to the walled garden and anyone buying Apple products is doing it for the software and statement. People who don’t like their closed ecosystem are not going to buy their phones, even if the devices are 20% faster than the next.
Apple will do anything to line their pockets further, Google just realised they can get away with this too now, the companies were scared before, but now they know customers are just pushovers and will buy up anything. The world is fucked.
