Yes, I’m… That. I think highly of Myself. I can’t help it, it’s a defence mechanism against the abuse I endured as a child. And it doesn’t hurt anyone. But I can tell you still hate Me for it.
You think I’m dangerous because I was abused, and I decided to like Myself anyway.
I wish everyone else would read into what they say a little more. What is a narcissist, to you? Where did you learn that word? Who taught you the cultural ways of valuing that underpin that word? The word implies thinking highly of yourself is bad. Abusive, even. Is that true? Have you researched it? Or is it a cultural myth?
Yeah, that’s the alarm bells in your head going off because I’m using the language of oppressed abuse victims, but I’m advocating for people who have the mental disorder that makes people evil abusers. Your brain is warning you that I can’t be trusted, according to the heuristics that it uses to judge people before you know them. You know, the pre-judgement heuristics. Prejudice.
No matter how well I argue or represent or cite sources, it’s still your choice who to listen to and how to feel about people different than yourself. Your feelings, like being creeped out, will reflect your personal views of other people.
No, actually. It’s seeing the world used as an insult all around that wears Me down. 20 years ago, everything bad was gay. So if you were gay, you knew everyone hated you. Now everything bad is narcissistic, so if you’re narcissistic, you know everyone hates you.
According to Ovid, Narcissus was a 16 year old who rejected all suitors. According to Conon, Narcissus “rejected Eros”. They both agree, Narcissus was punished for his refusal to love by Nemesis. Nemesis is the goddess who punishes hubris, and she made him fall in love with his reflection and die.
You say Narcissus sucked, in this Greek myth. Why do you hate him? Is it because he was asexual and aromantic? Was it because he was a child who didn’t want sex? Was it because he was “impious” in rejecting the god of love? Was it because of the manner in which he was executed?
What exactly is your stake in this queer child’s love life?
I just read the Wikipedia article not the myth itself so take it for what it is.
Getting all bent out of shape because of someone using a word that, since ancient times, meant some form toxic self love is silly at best.
Skimming through the wiki article I see more than one interpretation of the myth. An Ovids contemporary gives an interpretation of an asshole who rudely reject everyone and for being an asshole Narcissus is punished.
Yes, Ovid might have depicted the guy differently; no, I don’t know the texts myself.
But the colloquial meaning of the word is a self absorbed asshole. No matter gender or sexuality.
At the end of the day we are talking about a myth that was interpreted and reinterpreted through time by many people and even became term by itself no longer attached to the myth at all. The myth is nothing more than a fun fact and should not be treated as adding extra meaning to every usage of the word.
Well, you have to understand that the average person isn’t a mythology nerd. You might be, but to the average person, the word “narcissist” comes from self help books about the evils of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. In the common verbiage, “narcissist” is an accusation of personality disorder, in much the same way as other words like autist, schizo, or r*tard. You see the parallel?
I’m fairly young, so I used to wonder what it was like to be black or gay a few decades ago when racism was more overt. To receive open, direct abuse for a characteristic you have no control over. Even being trans, I never experienced hate so directly.
Then I self-diagnosed with NPD, and I began to meet glowing personalities such as yourself.
“Narcissist” is an ableist slur with a history rooted in aphobia
I’m 16 and deep lol
Sounds like something a narcissist would say
Yes, I’m… That. I think highly of Myself. I can’t help it, it’s a defence mechanism against the abuse I endured as a child. And it doesn’t hurt anyone. But I can tell you still hate Me for it.
You think I’m dangerous because I was abused, and I decided to like Myself anyway.
Think you’re reading into the joke a bit too much. Hope you can find some peace friend.
I wish everyone else would read into what they say a little more. What is a narcissist, to you? Where did you learn that word? Who taught you the cultural ways of valuing that underpin that word? The word implies thinking highly of yourself is bad. Abusive, even. Is that true? Have you researched it? Or is it a cultural myth?
Somehow I feel like no matter i answer it wouldn’t be good enough
There’s something about this message that is super creepy.
Yeah, that’s the alarm bells in your head going off because I’m using the language of oppressed abuse victims, but I’m advocating for people who have the mental disorder that makes people evil abusers. Your brain is warning you that I can’t be trusted, according to the heuristics that it uses to judge people before you know them. You know, the pre-judgement heuristics. Prejudice.
No matter how well I argue or represent or cite sources, it’s still your choice who to listen to and how to feel about people different than yourself. Your feelings, like being creeped out, will reflect your personal views of other people.
You get called a narcissist a lot, huh?
No, actually. It’s seeing the world used as an insult all around that wears Me down. 20 years ago, everything bad was gay. So if you were gay, you knew everyone hated you. Now everything bad is narcissistic, so if you’re narcissistic, you know everyone hates you.
That was always true. There’s a greek myth about it. Narcissists objectively suck.
According to Ovid, Narcissus was a 16 year old who rejected all suitors. According to Conon, Narcissus “rejected Eros”. They both agree, Narcissus was punished for his refusal to love by Nemesis. Nemesis is the goddess who punishes hubris, and she made him fall in love with his reflection and die.
You say Narcissus sucked, in this Greek myth. Why do you hate him? Is it because he was asexual and aromantic? Was it because he was a child who didn’t want sex? Was it because he was “impious” in rejecting the god of love? Was it because of the manner in which he was executed?
What exactly is your stake in this queer child’s love life?
I just read the Wikipedia article not the myth itself so take it for what it is.
Getting all bent out of shape because of someone using a word that, since ancient times, meant some form toxic self love is silly at best.
Skimming through the wiki article I see more than one interpretation of the myth. An Ovids contemporary gives an interpretation of an asshole who rudely reject everyone and for being an asshole Narcissus is punished.
Yes, Ovid might have depicted the guy differently; no, I don’t know the texts myself.
But the colloquial meaning of the word is a self absorbed asshole. No matter gender or sexuality.
At the end of the day we are talking about a myth that was interpreted and reinterpreted through time by many people and even became term by itself no longer attached to the myth at all. The myth is nothing more than a fun fact and should not be treated as adding extra meaning to every usage of the word.
But someone above here in the thread was just using the myth to defend using a mental disorder as a casual insult. That’s fucked up.
What are you talking about? Maybe I have something blocked, but I see nothing close to that in this thread.
Well, you have to understand that the average person isn’t a mythology nerd. You might be, but to the average person, the word “narcissist” comes from self help books about the evils of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. In the common verbiage, “narcissist” is an accusation of personality disorder, in much the same way as other words like autist, schizo, or r*tard. You see the parallel?
Fucking cry about it you gods damned narcissist.
I’m fairly young, so I used to wonder what it was like to be black or gay a few decades ago when racism was more overt. To receive open, direct abuse for a characteristic you have no control over. Even being trans, I never experienced hate so directly.
Then I self-diagnosed with NPD, and I began to meet glowing personalities such as yourself.