• CptOblivius@lemmy.world
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        Liberalism in america and liberalism in Europe, etc are different. We have libertarianism which is closer to classic liberalism others refer to.

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            Yes but can include alot of socialism/social components. It is a very broad term in the US. It is more left than center but not far left. Strong social support but more fiscally central.

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      I cannot stand how shitpost is literally just a place for people to shoehorn all sorts of edgy political takes. And when I say edgy, I mean the same loudmouth shit we hear all the time here.

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        when I say edgy, I mean the same loudmouth shit we hear all the time here

        This is the real issue. Edgy is fine. “”““Edgy””“”" is tiring as fucking fuck

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      At least it’s after the election; the pre-election circle-jerking about how Democrats/liberals are the worst thing to happen to humanity were… suspicious.

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        The leftist memes never change, the only difference is we’re only allowed to speak when Liberals don’t find it inconvenient.

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            Liberals enshrine property rights which include land, labor (people) and capital (machinary). Thereby, the owner dominates land, labor and capital.

            There are many flavors of Leftist. Proudhon stated it best as, “Property is Theft!”. Property rights are inconsistent with freedom. The owners derive their living from the labor of workers on land that was held in common with machines created by other exploited workers. Anarchy is an effort to end such domination.

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            Leftists don’t believe in a (free) market, while liberals do.

            In other words, leftists generally believe buying and selling, currency, etc. should be eradicated.

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            10 hours ago

            There’s countless differences between leftists.

            The unifying differences are anti-capitalism and being against private ownership - which in leftist thinking is differentiated from personal ownership (toothbrushes, personal housing, etc). Generally there’s some degree of anti-hierarchical values.

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              There’s countless differences between leftists.

              They asked for the difference between leftists and liberals, not whether or not there are differences between leftists.

              The unifying differences are anti-capitalism and being against private ownership - which in leftist thinking is differentiated from personal ownership (toothbrushes, personal housing, etc).

              Correct.

              Generally there’s some degree of anti-hierarchical values.

              Same with liberals, so generally incorrect.

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