Grifters promise us fake “AI” while our (unfortunately) critical, tech infrastructure rots. Ride a bicycle instead.
Oh, the old infrastructure that never failed until literally the day after you installed slop services? That infrastructure?
“Overloaded with what?” asks Goose. “What overloaded the systems?!?” Goose chases ankles.
meanwhile, in project 2025:
Project 2025 was spelled out and publicly available before the last presidential election and Dems should be pointing to this specific section as a response to the outage and focusing on how many things from project 2025 have been implemented as well as what else is planned at every opportunity. They should blame the Republican party as a whole for doing it, not just Trump, or the threat would die with him when it is clearly a group effort.
That’s basically the whole document. Take responsibility from the federal government and give it to the states, eventually privatize all the things.
Page 667:
https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
It really feels like they’re blaming something easy to convince people, in order to hide something…
yeah I don’t think yesterday had more traffic that any other day before historically.
No, I think it’s because they brought on their new AI system and it crashed their network. Not everything is a big conspiracy. They simply way overestimated the network capacity.
But that in itself is a conspiracy theory, the AI they implemented is basically air gapped from the system that failed, it makes recommendations and that’s it
Mine is a plain theory that’s based on the facts we have, a guess. I make no claim that I know for sure. A conspiracy theory is that there’s a secret conspiracy against us. Jumping rashly to “they’re hiding it all man there’s something going on man” is a conspiracy theory.
Occam’s Razer. The simplest solution is pro ably the correct one. They probably overwhelmed their ancient hardware with new tech. Which happens to line up pretty well with what was said and what we know.
The facts that are available is that AI was only implemented as part of the SMART tool. That particular tool is completely separate from the system that failed and only gives recommendations that the operator can choose to ignore.
So what flooded the interface? Something definitely changed.
They hooked up new ai tech, bragged about it the day before lol. Now they are trying to blame the old tech for being overloaded by the new ai tech, as opposed to admitting it was the new stuff that caused the failure.
You mean the old tech that has been fine for a long time? That old tech got overloaded?
Lmao. These people think we’re stupid…
Yep, had the gall to then demand $50 billion dollars or it will happen again.
To upgrade the infrastructure or to build the Blackwall?
To line their personal pockets with
Unfortunately most people will buy this…
They hooked SMART up 3 days before the shutdown, and over 2 months ago in DC and FL.
They hooked up the old system decades ago, the last time they had to ground all flights was 09/11/2001, and it wasn’t because anything went wrong with the ATC system.
2 months in regional areas and 3 days nationwide is not really impressive in any way except for how quickly their shit fucked up the existing functional and reliable system that has worked without fail for decades.
Headline is kinda doing the article dirty here because that’s pretty much what it says
“We have old switches, old routers. We use 1980s little copper lines. It’s an old system that went down and went down everywhere. It got overloaded,” he said.
But when pressed by reporters on exactly why those systems would become overwhelmed on an otherwise normal travel day, Duffy did not have a ready answer.
You mean those components made when durability was better than today and could last forever with proper maintenance? Both hardware and software, just because something has a 1980s PCB inside it does not automatically make it shit and more prone to spontaneous failures than modern tech.
Yeah, I can smell the bullshit fumes coming off this from an aeronautical mile away.
Not defending Duffy, just saw a presser shortly ago where he said that this all happened in the critical moment of switching over from copper lines to fiber optic ones, and that one switch then started flooding others with requests or transmissions, can’t remember his exact phrasing there.
Guess that could be their AI slop, but perhaps could be some other network equipment misconfiguration or failure.
Yeah, thats not how network switches operate tho
DOGE killed the plans for an upgrade. 100% Trump and Musk fault.
And then in a bait and switch they allocated money for an upgrade in the BBB but not enough so now they want additional funding to make up for that shortfall.
All I heard from Duffy and Markwaynejimbob was a lot of unsolicited Trump fluffing, a bullshit explanation using the most old techy-sounding jargon they could think of on the spot and request for a ton of money which I am sure will include earmarks for some fascist shit. Clowns
Granted, our system has needed a modernization overhaul for decades. But to tell us that the Orange One has been concerned about this for a long time is laughable. Even if he was, he did fuck-all about it so why bring him into it? We spent our money on Bombs for Gaza, Bombs for Iran and ICE.
With the money we spent on the Epstein/Iran war (so far) we could have essentially met that $40B request. That’s America First for you.
Ride a bicycle instead.
Yeah, you ride a bicycle from NYC to LA and make it on time for the meeting or take your 3 year old.
Maybe an e-bike then??
Why is your commute across the entire country for something that could have been an email?
Or a zoom meeting.
why are you commuting in a plane?
I live in a bikeable city. I see people on bikes with a kid or two all the time.
Old tech blamed for the ground stop that caused flight chaos: ‘It got overloaded’
Ride a bicycle instead.
Sarcastic comment about how you cannot ride a bike in the scale that a plane would fly
I live in a bikeable city.
Really? People are flying around the city that you live in?
The article wasn’t rendering except in reader mode so I copied it here in case anyone else had issues:
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The nationwide ground stop that paralyzed the U.S. aviation system on Friday has ended, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.
The rare stop, which lasted about four hours, grounded thousands of flights at all U.S. airports in one of the biggest disruptions of the nation’s air travel system since the September 11th attacks.
In a Friday night news conference, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said that air traffic control facilities had experienced “intermittent” outages of their radar and communications systems beginning earlier in the afternoon. Duffy blamed outdated technology for the failures.
“We have old switches, old routers. We use 1980s little copper lines. It’s an old system that went down and went down everywhere. It got overloaded,” he said.
But when pressed by reporters on exactly why those systems would become overwhelmed on an otherwise normal travel day, Duffy did not have a ready answer.
Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin joined Duffy in the White House briefing room and said there was no evidence the issue was due to an attack.
“We have seen zero evidence this is a cyber attack,” he said.
A flight board showing delayed flights is pictured at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Friday.
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As of 9 p.m. ET, more than 8,000 flights had been delayed Friday and 7,000 had been canceled in the U.S., according to FlightAware, a flight tracking site. The turmoil comes on the heels of nearly 7,000 flight delays on Thursday.
The FAA said the issue affected Air Route Traffic Control Centers — the regional air traffic control centers across the country that handle high-altitude traffic.
FAA leaders did not brief the media at the White House press conference, and did not provide any further detail on the communication outages that led to the ground stop.
This was only the second nationwide ground stop since September 11, 2001. The U.S. last issued a ground stop of this scale in 2023, when all U.S. airports were shut down due to an outage in the NOTAM (Notice to Air Missions) system, which alerts pilots and airports of real-time hazards.
That outage prompted fears of a cyberattack, but the FAA later determined the issue was caused when contract workers inadvertently deleted critical files.
Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) released a statement late Friday evening calling for a “prompt, penetrating investigation” into the causes of Friday’s ground stop.
“A widespread communication outage of this scale is highly alarming — a clear danger to national security, as well as safe, convenient travel close to the holidays. The Department of Transportation owes Americans credible, accurate action and factual disclosure,” the statement read.
The FAA has recently begun rolling out an AI-enhanced software tool known as the SMART system as part of its ambitious overhaul of the nation’s air traffic control system. But Air Space Intelligence, the company that makes the tool, quickly dismissed speculation that its product could be connected to the flight disruptions.
“The current ground stop is not based on or a result of the SMART system, any product of ASI or our integration with FAA and ATC,” the company said on social media.
Passengers stranded
The nationwide ground stop caused chaos in airports and headaches for travelers — many of whom are already too familiar with flight delays and cancellations during the holiday season.
At the Friday night press conference, Duffy said flights would resume but would take time to clear.
At Dallas Fort Worth International Airport, Regina Harling said she waited hours — long past when her flight was supposed to depart — before she learned of the nationwide grounding by checking the news on her phone.
“There’s still a sign right in front of me that says we’re boarding in 16 minutes,” she said Friday afternoon.
An airline worker shows people how to apply for a refund at LaGuardia airport on Friday.
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Harling needed to travel last minute to San Diego for a family emergency. Stuck at the airport, she said she was thinking about how soon she could make it to her family, but she’s not optimistic.
“I was just thinking to myself that it always feels like it’s getting harder to travel than it used to be,” she said.
At Chicago O’Hare International Airport, Giliann Karon was on board a plane when the ground stop was ordered. Karon said she had already experienced a flight delay the day before due to bad weather in New York City, where she is heading.
“It’s just kind of like, ‘Oh, of course this is happening,’” she said.
Deepa Shivaram contributed to this report.
NPR has it.
What a time to be alive
Old technology is slowly growing so old that it has to be updated to keep up with new systems
New technology is becoming ever more powerful and useful for humanity
The handover between old and new should be carefully executed to ensure the safety of millions of people who’s lives depend on these systems.
It’s at this critical junction in human history and development that one powerful country with control of most of the world’s technologies decided to elect the dumbest, most corrupt and untrustworthy leadership in its 250 year history.
The old technology is extremely reliable, that’s why they still used it. It does not need to be updated.
New technology is being presented as much more powerful than it actually is in reality, and that goes double for usefulness.
Twice.
Sure… uh huh… and that no talent other shitty TV host needs 50 billion to fix it, righ? Right. These reality tv idiots running this god damn country into the ground for their own personal amusement and wealth gain.
