Don’t take my answer too literal. I was just arguing the same way the poster before you did, applying the same logic.
In fact I (as a German) could imagine working in all these places. But it’s not like they are without issues. And I think Europe has some countries that are very attractive to foreigners, just that Germany isn’t on the list.
People from Eastern Europe still move to Germany, though from my admittedly anecdotal experience, the more skilled someone is, the less likely are they going to end up in Germany.
That said, German politics seem fucked and hopeless and I’m from Hungary. I mean you have the unapologetic conservative-neolib group trying to cut all government spending if it does not go to megacorps, and the only party ith a chance to stand up to them are actual Nazis.
From what I’ve heard the far-right is on the rise in all of these. They’re good targets in the short term to make a few bucks, but when you consider the long term situation it’s really not worth it building a life in a place that will be Sieg Heiling by 2040.
To be honest, unrest in the US and Russia are generating a lot of this far-right bullshit. I hope as both of them collapse back on themselves a little, I mean the US is already destroying its tentacles around the world while Russia is drowning in its war economy, these fuckheads will get deplatformed a tiny bit.
But I’m open to suggestions, where do you go to escape fascism and imperialism to build a family? I need a place with working healthcare and education so that I can have kids.
But I’m open to suggestions, where do you go to escape fascism and imperialism to build a family? I need a place with working healthcare and education so that I can have kids.
In terms of quality of life the regions with good candidates are Eastern Europe (particularly Ukraine should be starving for foreign labor by now), Southeast Asia and Latin America (China too if you’re fine with the authoritarianism aspect), but I can’t actually tell you how many of those will take in economic immigrants. . Generally though it’s not a good time for economic migration (or “I’m fleeing impending but not current disaster” migration) these days. We can only hope this decade gives us better candidates.
Stupidist take I’ve ever read here; are you seriously telling people to immigrate into a country that is in the middle of an active invasion and nearly losing a war with it’s neighbor?
With that logic, Gaza City is also open for foreign labor.
I mean, Ukraine is fighting Russia for survival, but also you have to remember that due to that war it has one of the world’s most advanced and most innovative drone programs. Ukraine is on the cutting edge of the defense industry, so they simply won’t be allowed to lose the war lest this technology falls into Russian hands. They’re also certainly not building factories in foreign countries because they’re losing. Also unlike Gaza most of Ukraine isn’t a warzone, so there are places where one can be reasonably safe from Russian reprisal.
The city that is one of the farthest away from the fighting, Mukachevo, just got a couple of major missile hits in the factory you’re just hyping up.
And BTW, I’m from Eastern Europe, and even though my part isn’t a warzone, it’s a hotbed of the same fascism, mixed with some colonial vibes and imploding social services.
The city that is one of the farthest away from the fighting, Mukachevo, just got a couple of major missile hits in the factory you’re just hyping up.
The factory I’m hyping up isn’t even in Ukraine (my point was that Ukraine isn’t going anywhere with collaboration like that going on), but also wow, damn. My country is enough of a shithole that I’d still take my chances, but still I did not expect that.
it’s a hotbed of the same fascism, mixed with some colonial vibes and imploding social services.
I’m not being argumentative, it’s just a shit decision between moving to the “West” from the Eastern EU or swallowing the bitter pill that I get to pay taxes to the country that just had half of its central bank reserves stolen by the president of said central bank, while the healthcare is just as likely to kill you as cure you, ambulances won’t come out for an impending heart attack, they laugh you out of the ER with a broken arm, and these are just my immediate experiences.
If you look at the news, a hospital ceiling just crumbled and dropped on a hospital bed last week, they found cockroaches in operating rooms - which are not climate controlled, so they are 40C, and I could continue. There are around 2 trains and 3-5 burning buses on average per week in the past month. Last Friday, three Budapest buses caught fire and burned out in 24 hours. Orphanages are being used as a brothel for pedophiles in the government.
Germany I understand. What about Denmark, the Netherlands or the Nordics in general?
Also where else would you go?
North America: maybe Canada. South America: not really a a target for economic migration. Africa: the same. Asia: also racist
Nice little world we have here I guess.
That said, I hate that the fact that the EU is somehow the least worst option, it holds back actual progress.
Don’t take my answer too literal. I was just arguing the same way the poster before you did, applying the same logic.
In fact I (as a German) could imagine working in all these places. But it’s not like they are without issues. And I think Europe has some countries that are very attractive to foreigners, just that Germany isn’t on the list.
People from Eastern Europe still move to Germany, though from my admittedly anecdotal experience, the more skilled someone is, the less likely are they going to end up in Germany.
That said, German politics seem fucked and hopeless and I’m from Hungary. I mean you have the unapologetic conservative-neolib group trying to cut all government spending if it does not go to megacorps, and the only party ith a chance to stand up to them are actual Nazis.
Maybe in numbers, but for sure not in policy
Yeah sure, I’m not saying that they are an okay option, just that they seem to be the only one.
From what I’ve heard the far-right is on the rise in all of these. They’re good targets in the short term to make a few bucks, but when you consider the long term situation it’s really not worth it building a life in a place that will be Sieg Heiling by 2040.
To be honest, unrest in the US and Russia are generating a lot of this far-right bullshit. I hope as both of them collapse back on themselves a little, I mean the US is already destroying its tentacles around the world while Russia is drowning in its war economy, these fuckheads will get deplatformed a tiny bit.
But I’m open to suggestions, where do you go to escape fascism and imperialism to build a family? I need a place with working healthcare and education so that I can have kids.
In terms of quality of life the regions with good candidates are Eastern Europe (particularly Ukraine should be starving for foreign labor by now), Southeast Asia and Latin America (China too if you’re fine with the authoritarianism aspect), but I can’t actually tell you how many of those will take in economic immigrants. . Generally though it’s not a good time for economic migration (or “I’m fleeing impending but not current disaster” migration) these days. We can only hope this decade gives us better candidates.
Stupidist take I’ve ever read here; are you seriously telling people to immigrate into a country that is in the middle of an active invasion and nearly losing a war with it’s neighbor?
With that logic, Gaza City is also open for foreign labor.
I mean, Ukraine is fighting Russia for survival, but also you have to remember that due to that war it has one of the world’s most advanced and most innovative drone programs. Ukraine is on the cutting edge of the defense industry, so they simply won’t be allowed to lose the war lest this technology falls into Russian hands. They’re also certainly not building factories in foreign countries because they’re losing. Also unlike Gaza most of Ukraine isn’t a warzone, so there are places where one can be reasonably safe from Russian reprisal.
The city that is one of the farthest away from the fighting, Mukachevo, just got a couple of major missile hits in the factory you’re just hyping up.
And BTW, I’m from Eastern Europe, and even though my part isn’t a warzone, it’s a hotbed of the same fascism, mixed with some colonial vibes and imploding social services.
The factory I’m hyping up isn’t even in Ukraine (my point was that Ukraine isn’t going anywhere with collaboration like that going on), but also wow, damn. My country is enough of a shithole that I’d still take my chances, but still I did not expect that.
Now that I’m looking into it, shit you’re right.
I’m not being argumentative, it’s just a shit decision between moving to the “West” from the Eastern EU or swallowing the bitter pill that I get to pay taxes to the country that just had half of its central bank reserves stolen by the president of said central bank, while the healthcare is just as likely to kill you as cure you, ambulances won’t come out for an impending heart attack, they laugh you out of the ER with a broken arm, and these are just my immediate experiences.
If you look at the news, a hospital ceiling just crumbled and dropped on a hospital bed last week, they found cockroaches in operating rooms - which are not climate controlled, so they are 40C, and I could continue. There are around 2 trains and 3-5 burning buses on average per week in the past month. Last Friday, three Budapest buses caught fire and burned out in 24 hours. Orphanages are being used as a brothel for pedophiles in the government.