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    Roses are red

    Violets are blue

    Oversimplified political apathy

    Is what gave you Trump 2

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    here’s an example for you to drive home why sentiment like this is dumb and creates false equivalencies. when I was 14, I worked at a grocery store. there were two managers that I would get scheduled with. they both sucked and were awful human beings. however, one was a known child predator. which one do you think I’d rather get scheduled with?

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    Americans think their favorite political sports team cares about them like the stripper actually loved them. No, you just gave them what they wanted and as soon as you’re out of sight, they’ll forget you and keep doing their job.

    For strippers it’s doing a workout for a living and being proud of their bodies. For politicians it’s gaslighting the public into thinking they’re the good guys as they socially murder at home and sweep up blood abroad.

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    Honestly, I read this thread and can’t comprehend how a civilization as advanced as the United States of America thinks that defending a binary choice of democracy is a good thing to do… It’s impossible to represent a country with a few million people like that, imagine ~300M. Anyway, keep going at each other’s throats for your party color… smh.

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            “indentured servitude” is the euphemism they use.
            Obviously the bestest democracy in the history of the entire universe doesn’t have slavery.

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              I don’t blame you, I was educated that it abolished slavery. But there’s a very big “except”. It was partially added to help sway the Confederate states to make them happy that they can keep slaves if they find enough things to arrest them for.

              It’s part of why Jim Crow laws happened. And it’s exactly why America has the highest amount of people in jail than any other nation. Slaves are cheap labor.

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    The funniest thing about non Americans is that they think most of us don’t fucking know this. It’s so annoying

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    Finally someone who speaks the truth, however humans are a lost case, you can’t un-slave mentality without changing the people.

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      We currently have two parties in the US:

      1. The Nazi party.

      2. The Nazi collaborator party.

      One is objectively better than the other, but that ain’t saying much.

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      “This parent abuses you much less than the other. Why are you complaining?!?!?!”

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        Interesting analogy I have found. There is a plethora of psychology and sociology studies that show that children in abusive relationships end up hating the parent that refuses to stand up to the abusive parent more than the parent doing the abusing. Even if the child wouldn’t phrase it this way, there is an acceptance that abusive alcoholics exist. It is the supposedly good and sober parent letting it happen and enabling it that generates the greatest anger and hatred in the child.

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        And back in real life rather than your imagination, we’ve got the actual rapist versus the guy who once smelled someone’s hair. Yeah definitely both the same. /s

        Yeah, America is a capitalist hellhole, but the false equivalence you folks are pushing is absolutely astonishing.

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      Oh yes this is exactly what OP is saying. I’m sure Biden along with all the other Democrat politicians care IMMENSELY about everyone and are pure, benevolent beings. OP is 100% wrong. Democrat politicians treat every US citizen as if they are their own child. As long as the Republicans continue to do awful shit I will 100% believe this is how the world runs!

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      As an outside viewer, the Democrats seem like the obvious better choice. The also obviously don’t care about you that much. From what I can tell, while their actions are not outright destructive towards you, they at least seem only superficially helpful.

      And sure, that’s much better. I don’t think they care about you.

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    “I want the USA to suffer and die”

    Ftfy. Only one party is actively funded by our enemies and is enacting favorable policies to them.

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      “our enemies” LOL you Americans are so ridiculous. Turn off the TV, you’re just some dope who works for a living, absolutely no one is your enemy except the dictatorship of capital who are represented by political parties in your country and run capitalism.

      Both of your parties carried on illegal wars in my country, toppled the government, left a power vacuum that consumed my family and I still don’t think of you as my enemy.

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          Only one party is actively funded by our enemies

          You don’t need to be in possession of anything to acknowledge the easily verifiable fact that they are both sponsored by them.

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      The democrats were committing genocide. GTFO with the “funding our enemies” Ultranationalism.

      You are right about one thing though, I do want the USA to suffer and die, given both sides are fully committed to nationalism and genocide.

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        This was in Canada and we asked people, how much would you pay to clean one lake from acid rain pollution? And we asked other people, how much would you pay to clean up all lakes in Ontario from acid rain pollution? And people gave roughly the same number.

        Point is, the vast majority of people are black and white thinkers. You’re either cleaning pollution, or you’re not. 100% of the party supports cutting off aid to Israel, or they’re all literally committing genocide. You are merely one of the vast majority.

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          What are you talking about? What do lakes in Canada have to do with the fact that the Democratic Party is fully institutionally committed to fully supporting Israel and its extermination campaign?

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              Democrats have several members who have called for ending aid to Israel.

              Like 3 right. so 99% the same. So we’re back to telling people to be ok with just slightly less evil. Whcih was tried in the last election and failed spectacularly.

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                15 Senate Dems vote to cancel billions in Israeli military aid

                There’s 49 senate Democrats, which means 30.6% of Senate Democrats have voted for ending aid to Israel. 0% of Republican senators voted to cancel aid to Israel.

                Furthermore Republicans absolutely love to abuse pro-Palestine people in the worst ways they can, including arresting and deporting pro-Palestine people and cutting off funding for colleges that allow you to protest. I don’t think that’s “slightly less” evil.

                Finally even “slightly less” evil is by definition less evil. Getting in a car crash at 80 MPH is only slightly less likely to kill you than getting in a crash at 90 mph. So what’s the point of hitting the brakes?

                To be honest, to someone who’s observed this conflict for a long time, your side is getting its ass kicked. Israel has taken more land for 8 decades and no one is stopping them as they take more. You need every last advantage if you want to turn the tide. Don’t be lazy, make the necessary distinctions between those who might help you and those who will do whatever a judge will allow them to do to harm you.

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                  Not a bad point. 70% of dem leadership being in support of war crimes in exchange for $ is a lot better than the 100% that the republicans have. Still not great but I’ll take it.

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                  To be honest, to someone who’s observed this conflict for a long time, your side is getting its ass kicked.

                  What is your “side”? Neither the GOP nor the DNC are on my side. They’re on their donors’ sides. On the side of Zionists, the military-industrial complex, and other corporations that benefit from US imperialism & Israeli settler-colonialism.

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      Only one party is actively funded by our enemies

      Incorrect, both parties take money from Wall Street. Only a tiny, tiny minority of the Democrats don’t, and those spoiler Democrats are hated by the DNC far more than the DNC opposes their esteemed Republican opposition.

      If you refuse to see the capitalist oligarchs are the enemy that created the conditions for Trump, then nevermind and carry on, as there’s nothing that ever could convince you.

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    Haha, I still not sure what to call them.

    1. USAns?
    2. USArians?
    3. USians?

    I think Usans would be the most correct, but they are a people with no name.