The reason I ask is because, we have a government in the USA, who has demonstrated time and time again about how little accountability and responsibility matters to them. We have a “president” who is a convicted felon, has been impeached twice and obviously isn’t serving any level of sentencing whatsoever because we live in a world like that for some reason.
So why should anyone give a shit whether or not the Epstein files are released? I mean it is obvious that Trump has associated with him, it is no doubt that there are other high profile associates too, who are making their actions about how they’re handling this more apparent that their words ever could.
But the point I’m getting to is - why does this shit matter to an administration and particularly Trump when he’s about dodged everything you can throw at him? If he’s apparently immune, his voterbase doesn’t care and there is no sense of honor or anything through this administration. Wouldn’t these files mean next to nothing to him?
The Epstein files are the last symbol of hope for many people. I think your assessment on their potential impact is probably right. However, some people give MAGA followers enough credit to believe that some of them might turn on Trump if a ‘smoking gun’ such as the Files were to surface. After all, ‘protect the children’ has been a perennial, if disingenuous, rallying cry for the right since the dawn of politics.
The fact is that the US is dealing with two major problems: The first will be solved when the orange dotard finally kicks the bucket. The second is much trickier: 75M people wanted what the shithead was selling. They will still be around when Trump is gone. Believing that MAGA cares about underage sex trafficking is the same as believing MAGA followers possess some humanity and can be redeemed after their leader is dead.
I’m not sure what people even think the “Epstein files” are, or why they assume there’s some smoking gun in there.
It worries me that, even in the best case where the Epstein scandal causes Trump’s supporters to turn against him and he’s forced from office by his cabinet or Congress, Vance and most of the rest of the administration will emerge unscathed—and public opinion on his actual policies will be unaffected.
The hope is that eventually they’ll say “ok, THIS is not acceptable” but they just keep accepting it. It’s probably futile, but the options are keep trying, or become a fascist, so I’m going to keep trying.
You are right: truth and lawfulness doesn’t matter, this is not about consequences or fear thereof but it is about attention. So long as headspace is taken up by something that presents him in a negative light, less attention is spend on validation and this leads to perceived lack of admiration. I am unable think of anything this administration does that cannot be explained by traits that align with narcissistic personality disorder.
In case you’re not familiar with Frank Wilhoit’s amazing law, here it is:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
We’re hoping that very concrete, very public evidence might sway some of his base that actually have a few scruples left.
I am convinced he could molest his supporters’ children right in front of them and they’ll find a way to make themselves believe it was justified.
There is literally no less logical form of life than a MAGA.
If the impeachments, being convicted and the countless number of things this trash has been tied to has not swayed the voterbase by now. Nothing will.
All that this will be treated as, as just another talking point for conspiracy theorists to babble about for years, like they have already done so for a while now.
He probably could walk down Fifth Avenue with a toddler skewered on his mushroom dick and win more votes.
Seems like idle hope after the vast amount of crap he already pulled off and they still support him. I don’t see releasing the files making a dent. The fact he’s so hesitant to release them should already be enough and that doesn’t seem to sway them.
They will just downplay it. Or say, see others did it too, so they are all equality bad, so Trump is still the better option. That swamp isn’t going to get drained before mass riots or civil war breaks out.
“idol hope”?
Woops typo, fixed
American idle.
Truth is important. There’s something they’re fighting to keep hidden (standard disclaimer: of course they should not release CSAM or identities of victims, survivor or otherwise) and until it’s revealed, the other side can still accurately say that we don’t know the full extent of his documented involvement.
Additional information exists and every day it’s not in the headlines and in our hands, real-life monsters feel the heat die down a little more. This must not continue.
I agree with you. Most of the informed people that have been paying attention already know he is a child rapist pedo Nazi shitstain. This world is so fucked. Anyways, I think it’s a few things together.
Some of these people that keep posting or commenting “what about the Epstein files?” are the same people that post this inane shit all the time, like “egg prices”, “voting Kamela”, and other one-liners, that imo detract from and belittle these conversations. And some are just genuine and innocent in mentioning it. Maybe some are even bad actors doing this on purpose for some nefarious goal.
Sure hope you’re vaccinated with how much shit you’re talking bro holy fuck
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…Is the post I’d make if I was looking to muddy the waters for some inexplicable reason.
I think 47 and his cronies will manage to blame it all on Bill Clinton and sweep the rest under their carpet, along with his conviction in court and the impeachments. It’s a media war. It’s hard to play the game against the reality-tv-schooled incumbent to keep anything in the headlines. He’ll just throw a dead cat on the table and take all the oxygen out of the room, i.e. annex Canada or Greenland, 100% tariffs on everything, ICE jackboots raids, national guard in all cities run by Democrats, any late night tweet while he is constipated. It’s hard to keep anything in the news that is not conning from him. And this story is one of the few with staying power and the potential to be damaging to him before the judiciary has entirely lost its independence and maybe some of his followers rediscover their human decency in the attic. As such it is the only recruitment tool with oomph for Democrats to mobilize opposition to the fascist in chief. And, boy, do they need it!
