• plyth@feddit.org
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    this time, there won’t be any outside help

    There wasn’t outside help for Germany either. Until the war, the disabled, socialists, lgbtq and colored people will live in terror, if at all.

    There is still an outside. China has to be contained. There will be war. If China wins, and depending on how much our image of China is propaganda, that could be liberation.

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        Don’t you think that what is going to come will be worse than what is happening in China? At least they don’t try to undo science.

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          They have published the studies most used by nofap people, and otherwise are pushing traditional medicine within WHO, especially traditional Chinese medicine.

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          Jfc, “at least it’s not as bad” is a horrendous excuse to endorse a government that has committed genocide.

          How about you grow a spine and reject fascism properly instead of just rebounding from one authoritarian to another.

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            Trail of Death Tears. We have been endorsing such a government all the time, which made the recent development possible instead of giving them the opportunity to change.

            How would you create a government that doesn’t concentrate power permanently in a group of people in some form or another?

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          Right, they only undo science when it makes the government look bad, like during a certain pandemic in the recent past.

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            What did they do? And does that outweight the fascism that we can expect for us?

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              They did suppress early reports on the coronavirus by Chinese medical personnel and scientists, (including arrests of people who spoke out) allowing the (initially localised) epidemic to grow into a worldwide pandemic due to belated and half arsed response pretty much everywhere.

              Also, China is spiraling increasingly towards a fascist regime as well. Their “communist” party is communist in nothing but name.

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                Also, China is spiraling increasingly towards a fascist regime as well. Their “communist” party is communist in nothing but name.

                You can* be communist alongside being authoritarian without necessarily being fascist. What makes you say they’re spiralling towards that?

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                No. I know they do many rejectable things but I am aware of none that undermines science.

                Even the corona report suppression is not undermining science itself.

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        China famously does not have an incumbent fascist problem, and the west famously chooses to oppose China geopolitically. What the commenter above you said is correct. China is getting better in lgbtq regulation, women’s rights, worker rights, healthcare and education, not worse like Europe. China is opening up its media and social media to the world (tiktok and rednote in the west), while the west closes up to them (censorship of tiktok and Russian media)…