I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
I didn’t do any of this. I gave up the community a few months ago
https://sh.itjust.works/post/42512459?scrollToComments=true
I don’t approve of them removing I/P related stuff
@ikt@aussie.zone
Noooo you gave your community to the other genocide propagandist?
He’s your desk mate isn’t he?
Thank you for clarifying
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com Can you please sticky my comment?
iirc, mods can’t pin non-mod comments.
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ah bugger. do you wanna make a comment about it then and sticky that?
The OP is not blaming you. Your comment is also clearly visible as well.
okay cool! thanks pal
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The zionist and US regime rats infiltrate everything.
Death to the IDF! Free PalestineThat a scummy move from the mod. I made a new community where both siding occupation and genocide comments get removed !apologiafreenews@lemmy.world
The two mods are too very known genocide supporters so no surprise here.
Oh what a shock, it’s Goat, the known tolerator of Nazis until they get called out on it too often.
No you don’t understand he find extremism fascinating on both sides
The other mod is as bad if not worse
Wasn’t me fuckwit
your are still the second mod of that community , you are still responsible
I gave the community away, and I don’t plan on moderating it. I’m remaining the head moderator in case of any potential drama or mod abuse from ikt.
I will wait for you to remove the other pro genocide mod for that community
Why should I entertain any of your demands when you call me a nazi even though I’ve asked people not to say that because it’s hurtful?
Look, I don’t know anything about you, and I’m not the person who said that, new to the thread, but you said you wanted to remain head moderator in case of mod abuse. We’re seeing mod abuse. It’s time to kick the other one out. Refusal after being made aware of this is approval if you want to remain head moderator to remove other mods for mod abuse.
Don’t you mean eugenevdebs’s called you a nazi?
If you want to not remove him fine , don’t complain after that when people call you a zionist and anti Palestinian liberation person
Yikes, sorry for thinking the community that you’re still a mod of was possibly you, especially after you’ve previously shown simular situations of banning people for things you don’t like.
I accept your apology, can you please edit a strikethrough of your previous comment?
Oh of course it’s another goat comm
I didn’t do this, I gave the community up months ago
Which is definitely obvious when still the top mod in said comm.
Modlog is public and you can see I no longer moderate or even comment in that community, I don’t care for it.
Which is definitely obvious when still the top mod in said comm.
why do you want me to leave the position and give it to ikt?
Pointing out how I never said you did anything but that it’s your comm, and that would be what most people think has been done when said I gave it up
I didn’t do this, I gave the community up months ago
why do you want me to leave the position and give it to ikt?
You seem to not care at all about it but don’t want to give it up, odd
What’s a goat comm?
Goat from ShitJustWorks, someone who is “highly interested in extremism” to use their own words. MeanwhileOnGrad is their main claim to fame here, which is an attempt to document the things Tankies talk about.
It has been a host to users using Nazi dog whistles. Goat was on Voat, the Nazi clone of reddit made when Reddit banned some alt-rignt community, and got banned from it twice.
Also tried to force guro (gore art for sexual stimulation/pleasure) onto some communities.
I see you make lots of claims about this, but have yet to see any receipts about these “Dog whistles” on MWoG
So goat is a person. A shite person, but… I see.
Very.
I’m not a bad person, Eugene lies about me a lot, I don’t know why.
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There have been no nazi dog whistles. But there has been antisemitism, one of which comes from a user active in this community.
In this screenshot the user deleted their account of one-to-two years after I questioned why their response to antisemitism and holocaust denialism from Hamas was to shout zionist.
I moderate !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works very strictly when it comes to dogwhistles and hate speech.
What about that one user for months kept saying “degenerate roaches” for months on end?
He was banned for a week, with the condition he does not use that term
Now, a personal request, can you stop calling me a nazi? And my community nazis? It’s extremely hurtful. I have spent years challenging extremists of all kinds, from nazis to tankies to QAnons to religious fundamentalists. I have been banned from many far-right sites and communities for speaking against them. I helped shut down Ruqqus and /r/uncensorednews, which were crawling with neo-nazis. To then be called a nazi myself is deeply hurtful and untrue
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How do you shamelessly lie about the meaning of zio. Anti zionism is not antisemitism no matter how much you try to say the opposite
Did you not read the screenshot?
The user was insisting on using specifically “zio” – I offered them a chance that they didn’t know about “zio”, gave them a chance to use zionist or any other phrase, but they insisted on using the term coined by David Duke, leader of the KKK.
Zio is simply an abbreviation of Zionist . Just because kkk used the same term wrongly doesn’t mean that people saying zio support the KKK. Even the term antisemite was corned by someone who hated jews and conservatives hijacked the term woke so should we also stop using them. What a ridiculous claim you are saying
I moderate !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works, the largest anti-tankie community across all of Lemmy.
This makes Tankies very upset, and they often lie about posts, such as this one, saying that I was the one removing these things.
There have been no nazi dog whistles; that’s a lie. I moderate the community very strictly. There was also no guro art posted, no idea where that claim came from.
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This is antiyanks, a troll who follows me around all the time. Antiyanks regularly harasses random people for random reasons, he’s unfortunately mentally ill. He’s made a few hundred accounts and all admins and moderators have had their own stories of him. The dead children refers to the posts he’s made where he DMs me pictures of dead children.
The gore community was going to be something like medical gore, an educational community about surgery and how healthcare workers handle trauma
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You should be consistent and oppose Zionism which is the ideology behind the occupation of Palestine. I oppose both Russia and Israel because they are the colonial powers
i do
We literally has a discussion about Zionism where I quoted Herzl writings that show that he supported displacing people to be able to create the state and you shamelessly say that he had no influence while Israel declaration of independence mentioned him as the spiritual father of the Jewish State and allowed other zinoists to spread their propaganda in your community
he had no influence
I was quoting you when you said the Grand Mufti, Amin al-Husseini, meeting with Adolf Hitler had little influence and is insignificant
Goat just keep revealing themselves and acts like everyone else is the weird one.
well yeah, you’re larping that it was me lol
you are the weird one
lmao classic
Oh you’re that nutcase raging we didn’t ban someone for having an opinion you didn’t like? You literally claimed their post was a crime against humanity…
Oh you’re that nutcase who consider victim blaming an opinion that should be respected
Context for any other person interested : someone justified the mistreatment of the flotilla activists getting abused by saying the activists knew what would happen to them and that they are only doing a publicity stunt and the mods refused to remove it
Here’s the real context.
Op thinks this comment constitutes a literal human rights abuse and that the user should be banned.
They also feel that telling this user to go kill themselves is fine and that the death threat should not have been removed
Have some shame. I said that it is victim blaming the people who got abused by Israel and that Israel did human right abuses.
I never said that kill themselves is fine. either. Show the comment where I explicitly said it
I’m gonna side with the other guy here. You know we can see the modlog right? All I gotta say is wow.
My modlog show that i critsized victim blaming the people who got abused by Israel and called to remove victim blaming
It shows you generally being a dick to people you disagree with. One line even said “scums like you should be iced.”
I only insult people defending objectivly undefensible things like victim blaming, not people who simply disagree with me about subjectivd things. People like that are scums and i will not be politically correct about it. The other guy said i should be iced first and i simply repeated his rhetoric
Which two? There’s three mods on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works
Also I’d recommend the following comms as being pretty good:
I don’t fully promise they’re good as I don’t usually track this stuff super closely
/edit/: added the quokk.au community since people here seem to like it
I’m biased towards !world@quokk.au
There is 2 mod accounts belonging to the same person
ah! i see
From globalnews
This type of comment is why I decided to create a new community for news. Instead of criticizing Trump, some people still cry about democrats losing the election. Those type of comments would directly be removed from my community and after 3 deleted comments it’s a ban
Let me get this straight. Do you want a news community where nobody can criticise the DNC for the terrible policy decisions that lost them the last election, and which they seem determined to carry through into the next election? I mean, have any Democrats have even admitted Israel is committing genocide in Gaza yet? The official party line continues to be full throated support for Zionism from both sides of the aisle.
If you’re planning to go down that road you should just call it DNC/Hasbara approved news or something, so folks know what they are getting.
There’s a reason leftists don’t bang on about Trump all the time. It’s because he’s a lost cause. He’s a literal fascist. Nobody on Lemmy needs convincing Trump is the worst US President in history. Imo convincing Dems they should lurch left instead of right (for once) could help win them the next election. But they just don’t want to listen, don’t want to change, and seem intent on ontracising the left instead of taking on board perfectly legitimate criticisms of the party’s leadership and policies.
I was not clear, the thing that would not be allowed in this screenshot would be the person defending Harris. The first comment i removed was someone defending Harris in relation to the genocide. I allow opinions, i don’t allow people defending objective terrible things like arming israel and support the genocide and settler colonialiam
Ok maybe I misunderstood your comment then.
Just from an outside perspective:
you’re playing the same game die a different side. What kind of consistent ruleset warrants a delete and ban for this?
Power tripping for the right cause is still a powertrip.
Edit: I just realize that just leaving it like this reads purely confrontational which was not my original inten:
You can do better! If you want to have this kind of moderation that is actually fine in my book: as long as it’s transparent and consistent.
The exact rule must depend on the answer to what kind of community you want to build. Openly progressive vs openly debating vs aggressively neutral for example.
I know you can do it, because anyone who has the energy to take on this endeavor has the potential to grow ❤️.
Why should anybody tolerate people defending settler colonialism , occupation, genocide etc?
Because anything can be framed negative and without transparency about your personal ruleset on what those empty words mean it’s just Fox News brabble.
It’s not about tolerating intolerance, not at all. It’s about transparent consistency. That’s what preventing the powertrip: rules that you create AND THEN OBEY. Doesn’t matter what those rules are. But if you’re definition of occupation suddenly matches Medicaid I’d the mrdown fan club then you need to support people discussing it.
That’s the whole difference.
Btw your sentence a bit changed is what the trump goons actually use at the moment: “why should anyone tolerate criminals?”. And those fuckers just declared anything they don’t like “illegal”.
That’s what I’m asking: that everyone has the space to grow. That’s why I recommend you to create transparent rules that you obey yourself: to not become like those shitheads. Because they are full of people absolutely sure if themselves with no way to reflect, no way to think.
Actually it is you who use trump and maga rhetoric. Trump and maga are champions of claiming to be for freedom and speech yet censor other.
Trump definition of criminals is so ridiculous. Israel is objectively supporting genocide and settler colonialism we have ton of idf whistleblower, human right reports including israeli ones , isrseli leaders genocidal statements. Same apply to russia
Oh. I misjudged you, apologies.
I expect we will see mrdown posted about frequently on here for being a PTB.
So you’re running a shitlib echo chamber? hard pass.
If I wanted that, I’d go to lemmy.world!
It’s like saying banning neo Nazi or defending Hitler make me an echo chambers. How funny how you call that a shitlib when Harris is a lib and I don’t tolerate anybody defending people supporting Israel colonialism and other colonial powers like Russia
@ikt@aussie.zone
It’s a major bugbear of mine that people do this, but because their display name is significantly different from their username in a non-obvious way, you haven’t actually tagged them. Neither has @goat@sh.itjust.works.
To tag ikt, you have to do @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone.
That’s actually the fault of the modlog. It should not be showing a display name instead of their username.
IMO it’s primarily a fault of Lemmy for even allowing users to do that, and secondarily of users for using it in a way that makes it unobvious (e.g. funny fonts, pronouns, etc. are “obvious” changes that are unlikely to trip people up like this).
oh oops. lol. thanks pal
PTB, this ties in with the politician Blanchet being a Zionist.
Ik2 the racist and Zionists comm? Not surprised.
Off topic, but why the heck can’t I see !worldnews@sh.itjust.works? The instance and community aren’t blocked or filtered for me, and I can load other communities like !funny@sh.itjust.works. But from here, I can’t see it at all. If I try directly, it just says “Error”.
Works fine from sopuli.
Yeah it’s weird, maybe it’s .zip specific
I’m on .zip too, error here as well
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What the hell even is a “Gaza head”
How do you turn being upset about citizens being starved and killed in a systematic way into “feeling holier with hateful actions incapable of civil conversation”
Seems pretty obvious that you yourself feel holier and are incapable of holding conversation if you dismiss basic respect for human life as hateful.
Oh, look… a white supremacist has shown up to whine about pretend antisemitism.
The hateful people are you defending a settler colonial power. Antisemite comments are removed in every post where it happen
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WTF are you talking about?
Piggy have literally beaten up Jewish Holocaust survivors for protesting Israel.
Do you also require:
- Palestinians denounce Hamas immediately
- Ukrainians denounce Nazism immediately
I’m Jewish, and I do not make my anti-Zionism a secret. But israel does not speak for all Jews, expecting all Jews to speak for israel is the type of isolating othering that makes people scared to live in the communities where they are. You can ask a Jewish organization what its stance is before donating or volunteering with them, but demanding Jews “own up” to Israel does the opposite of what you want. You have to understand there’s two major Jewish movements in response to anti-semitism. One is zionism, which maps directly to neocolonialism and the other is Doikayt which is coalition building.
