I didn’t know Lemmy hated Taylor Swift. If I heard that, I would have guessed it was because she is “too mainstream,” but now I also see that it is because she is rich and is in a relationship with someone not politically pure enough.
I also suppose that endorsing Harris in the last election probably turned people off.
No one gets to be a billionaire without stealing from other people. Her private jet trips spending what should be the CO2 budget of a mid sized city even without accounting for the rest of her lifestyle cements her as a net negative for humanity.
It’s a platform catering towards techy middle aged men that can’t relate to her story at all. Of course, there’s always the bullshit about “of course I can’t relate to being a greedy billionaire” but it’s every single aspect, namely, never having been a teenage girl.
These guys will then go on to act like the teen girl story is a gimmick and that she should do something more mature, then scroll and geek out over painting some 40K figurines. Spoiler alert, we never stopped being kids, we just got wrinkly and gray.
I don’t get Swift. 300,000,000 women do. Clearly, she’s striking a chord somewhere significant.
Swift arguably never got to be a normal teenage girl either, and/or is still mentally a teenage girl. She was pushed into stardom from a young age and was surrounded by yes-men so she was never challenged, therefore never given an opportunity to grow.
Also, there’s a difference between having stereotypically immature hobbies and being actually emotionally and creatively immature lmao
That might be biased because your own age puts you into groups of interest to others your own age. I tried to be encompassing with “middle age” because, well, that probably includes me, a 30-something teenager. But that being said, I have felt there’s been a slow swing to at least be inclusive of 18-25 year olds. But I also have confirmation bias there because I can’t hang with the kids’ slang anymore, so it stands out when I see it.
Digression: I’d like to do a study on “what’s the funniest number” because it’s both age and time dependent. 69 has been funny for a long time, but for boomers and older, was there any other funny number? Gen x and some millennial would likely say 42 (Hitchikers guide to the galaxy). Other millennial might hark back to SpongeBob with 24/25. But what has obviously gotten me curious is 6-7. Of course, my assumptions stem only from my own observations and I could be missing large entries.
I’m a 54-yo techie. There seems to be far more people my age and older than I ever saw on reddit. Part of the reason I say that is so many mention their age when appropriate in context. There was an Ask Lemmy thread the other day where you almost had to state your age and I felt on the mid-younger end. Weird.
Also, there’s so many joke and memes that I would think only Millennials or even back to GenX would get.
“As god as my witness, I thought turkey’s could fly.”
Loads of people will get that reference. And that aired in 1978!
Got to say, Lemmy doesn’t feel like a hivemind-type place the way Reddit sometimes does — at least not to me.
If people love her, that’s fine. I’d say she’s definitely more talented than a lot of vacuous pop out there. But the level of adoration does seem a bit cult-like.
Not sure if anyone saw her on Graham Norton, but she came across as a bit self-involved, and it was painful watching the other guests fawn over her. Lewis Capaldi, with his down-to-earth humour and unfiltered honesty (plus his mild Tourette’s), was a total breath of fresh air in comparison.
She’s talented in the same way that McDonald’s is talented. She’s popular and great at marketing, but her singing and songwriting is not of any real substance
I care as much about her as I’ve cared about any pop diva over the past 40 years; not at all, other than rolling my eyes about how important so many people seem to think they are, and quietly looking forward to the day I never hear about them again. They’re not for me and that’s fine. If little girls like her, that’s also fine, but the screaming fanaticism they attract has always baffled me.
I’ve never heard a single one of her songs, and have zero interest in changing that. So, no hate, just apathy, with a bit of frustration at the stupidity of the masses. A normal day, in other words.
It’s entirely possible I have heard one of her songs playing in a supermarket or somewhere, but didn’t recognise it as her, although, that said, my local supermarket doesn’t seem to play anything from this century.
I could probably name 2 Coldplay songs, but I don’t seek out their music either. The Beatles are inescapable - I even quite like a few of their tunes. Hth :)
See my post history if you’d like to know more about my taste in music.
I didn’t know Lemmy hated Taylor Swift. If I heard that, I would have guessed it was because she is “too mainstream,” but now I also see that it is because she is rich and is in a relationship with someone not politically pure enough.
I also suppose that endorsing Harris in the last election probably turned people off.
No one gets to be a billionaire without stealing from other people. Her private jet trips spending what should be the CO2 budget of a mid sized city even without accounting for the rest of her lifestyle cements her as a net negative for humanity.
also taylor swift hanging out with far right maga influencers.
i agree that this is a problem but why is it always taylor swift that comes up when discussing private jets?
We weren’t discussing private jets, we were discussing Taylor Swift.
yeah, but seeing the private jet meme made me think of how only one of them i’ve seen was not about swift
True true
Lemmy hates her cause she’s obscenely rich, not because she’s female
I hate her because only dead musicians are artists
Hating rich people isn’t weird, simping for them is
It’s a platform catering towards techy middle aged men that can’t relate to her story at all. Of course, there’s always the bullshit about “of course I can’t relate to being a greedy billionaire” but it’s every single aspect, namely, never having been a teenage girl.
These guys will then go on to act like the teen girl story is a gimmick and that she should do something more mature, then scroll and geek out over painting some 40K figurines. Spoiler alert, we never stopped being kids, we just got wrinkly and gray.
I don’t get Swift. 300,000,000 women do. Clearly, she’s striking a chord somewhere significant.
Swift arguably never got to be a normal teenage girl either, and/or is still mentally a teenage girl. She was pushed into stardom from a young age and was surrounded by yes-men so she was never challenged, therefore never given an opportunity to grow.
Also, there’s a difference between having stereotypically immature hobbies and being actually emotionally and creatively immature lmao
She has been given every opportunity and resource to do better, more than the billions of other people in the world.
Is this your hobby? Thinking about why Taylor Swift is bad?
I dabble lol. She’s an interesting case study and sometimes it’s nice to dissect something that’s trivial
You’re criticizing thinking now?
the demo on lemmy to me mostly seems to be techie 20 somethings.
It’s definitely older than 20 something. As a 20 something, the things that are popular here don’t align with that age group.
That might be biased because your own age puts you into groups of interest to others your own age. I tried to be encompassing with “middle age” because, well, that probably includes me, a 30-something teenager. But that being said, I have felt there’s been a slow swing to at least be inclusive of 18-25 year olds. But I also have confirmation bias there because I can’t hang with the kids’ slang anymore, so it stands out when I see it.
Digression: I’d like to do a study on “what’s the funniest number” because it’s both age and time dependent. 69 has been funny for a long time, but for boomers and older, was there any other funny number? Gen x and some millennial would likely say 42 (Hitchikers guide to the galaxy). Other millennial might hark back to SpongeBob with 24/25. But what has obviously gotten me curious is 6-7. Of course, my assumptions stem only from my own observations and I could be missing large entries.
I’m a 54-yo techie. There seems to be far more people my age and older than I ever saw on reddit. Part of the reason I say that is so many mention their age when appropriate in context. There was an Ask Lemmy thread the other day where you almost had to state your age and I felt on the mid-younger end. Weird.
Also, there’s so many joke and memes that I would think only Millennials or even back to GenX would get.
“As god as my witness, I thought turkey’s could fly.”
Loads of people will get that reference. And that aired in 1978!
Oh, the humanity! People are running about. The turkeys are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement!
Got to say, Lemmy doesn’t feel like a hivemind-type place the way Reddit sometimes does — at least not to me.
If people love her, that’s fine. I’d say she’s definitely more talented than a lot of vacuous pop out there. But the level of adoration does seem a bit cult-like.
Not sure if anyone saw her on Graham Norton, but she came across as a bit self-involved, and it was painful watching the other guests fawn over her. Lewis Capaldi, with his down-to-earth humour and unfiltered honesty (plus his mild Tourette’s), was a total breath of fresh air in comparison.
She’s talented in the same way that McDonald’s is talented. She’s popular and great at marketing, but her singing and songwriting is not of any real substance
She’s also kinda racist so
I care as much about her as I’ve cared about any pop diva over the past 40 years; not at all, other than rolling my eyes about how important so many people seem to think they are, and quietly looking forward to the day I never hear about them again. They’re not for me and that’s fine. If little girls like her, that’s also fine, but the screaming fanaticism they attract has always baffled me.
I’ve never heard a single one of her songs, and have zero interest in changing that. So, no hate, just apathy, with a bit of frustration at the stupidity of the masses. A normal day, in other words.
You’ve never heard a Taylor Swift song? I don’t favor her music, but I’ve heard several songs.
So I have a frame of reference, have you ever heard a Beatles song? How about Coldplay?
It’s entirely possible I have heard one of her songs playing in a supermarket or somewhere, but didn’t recognise it as her, although, that said, my local supermarket doesn’t seem to play anything from this century.
I could probably name 2 Coldplay songs, but I don’t seek out their music either. The Beatles are inescapable - I even quite like a few of their tunes. Hth :)
See my post history if you’d like to know more about my taste in music.