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jackeroni@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

Lemmy libs: "But stalin baddd mkayyy"

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    Cause he didn’t put them in jail, he just killed em, less overhead.

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    I suspect for some folks Stalin is bad because anyone else would have let the USSR capitulate to the wehrmacht invasion.

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    deleted by creator

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    This meme is old. Now it’s 25%

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      PROGRESS

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I made this in 2019 doggirl-happy

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      Thank you for your service

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      12 hours ago

      Thank you for your service comrade

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      Your memes are the backbone of the online communist community at this point.

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        The ones I shared on r/ChapoTrapHouse in 2019, like this and the space race one, are by far the most proliferated. The reach of that sub explains why the feds had to shut it down.

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    Inb4 “tWo ThInGs CaN bE bad At OnCe” from someone comparing something real the empire is doing with a story that same empire told them about someone else.

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    Ah so everything was chill in the USSR then? Stalin didn’t have any secret police or totalitarian access to power?

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      No, he was a competent leader. Why on earth wouldn’t he have counterintelligence operations against the CIA and others? Do you remember what they did to their own citizens during the war “just in case we need to do it to the Soviets and not just black people 😉”. Are you advocating defenselessness against the torture regime of the USA?

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      Who said that

  • scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Frankly not a tankie or a capitalist, but I’m pretty sure Stalin was shitty for other reasons. Admirable reasons at time as in the case of being a cold-mother fucker enough to gank his own son for the revolution. But reasons, surely.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Stalin wasn’t a perfect saint nor a horrendous monster. Stalin was a real socialist, with personal failings and mistakes, but also real victories and advancements as the leader of the first socialist state in its most turbulent era.

      Demystifying Stalin

      I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy.

      • J. V. Stalin
      1. Nia Frome’s “Tankies”

      [8 min]

      1. W. E. B Dubois’ On Stalin

      [6 min]

      1. Domenico Losurdo’s Primitive Thinking and Stalin as Scapegoat

      [30 min]

      1. Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin and Stalinism in History

      [16 min]

      1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by H. G. Wells

      [42 min]

      1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Emil Ludwig

      [38 min]

      1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Roy Howard

      [9 min]

      1. Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend

      [5 hr 51 min]

      1. Ludo Martens’ Another View of Stalin

      [5 hr 25 min]

      1. Anna Louise Strong’s This Soviet World

      Stalin's Major Theoretical Contributions to Marxism

      I have come to communism because of daddy Stalin and nobody must come and tell me that I mustn’t read Stalin. I read him when it was very bad to read him. That was another time. And because I’m not very bright, and a hard-headed person, I keep on reading him. Especially in this new period, now that it is worse to read him. Then, as well as now, I still find a Seri of things that are very good.

      • Che Guevara
      1. Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR

      2. Dialectical and Historical Materialism

      3. History of the CPSU (B)

      4. The Foundations of Leninism

      5. Marxism and the National Question

      • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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        10 hours ago

        Che, please don’t call him that.

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          Yea it’s a bit iffy, lol.

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            I swear it don’t sound as bad in Spanish lmao, “papi” can even be something you call a friend

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              Oh, gotcha! Makes sense, my spanish is super rusty and I didn’t think about the different context it would have in spanish.

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    ITT: trash takes

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      ITT: Nazi Libs from the ShitJustFash instance

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    I mean this doesn’t prove Stalin not bad.

    Are these stats including dead people or just prisoners? I feel like Stalin may have been fielding a murder-forward build.

    • KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml
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      Source: The black book of gommunism

      Checkmate

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    Funny that this is the exact same “logic” the libs use to try to defend running a pro-zionist, pro-corporate, pro-billionaire slimeball in the last US presidential election - “But Trump was worse!”

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Stalin wasn’t a saint, but he is overly demonized as compared to his peers. There has been a century of anticommunist mud-slinging at him, and now that the soviet archives are somewhat open, we can begin to actually judge him properly. Unlike Trump, Stalin was the leader of the world’s first socialist state, and a good portion of soviet success in their earlier years can be attributed to policies he pushed for.

      Demystifying Stalin

      I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy.

      • J. V. Stalin
      1. Nia Frome’s “Tankies”

      [8 min]

      1. W. E. B Dubois’ On Stalin

      [6 min]

      1. Domenico Losurdo’s Primitive Thinking and Stalin as Scapegoat

      [30 min]

      1. Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin and Stalinism in History

      [16 min]

      1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by H. G. Wells

      [42 min]

      1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Emil Ludwig

      [38 min]

      1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Roy Howard

      [9 min]

      1. Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend

      [5 hr 51 min]

      1. Ludo Martens’ Another View of Stalin

      [5 hr 25 min]

      1. Anna Louise Strong’s This Soviet World

      Stalin's Major Theoretical Contributions to Marxism

      I have come to communism because of daddy Stalin and nobody must come and tell me that I mustn’t read Stalin. I read him when it was very bad to read him. That was another time. And because I’m not very bright, and a hard-headed person, I keep on reading him. Especially in this new period, now that it is worse to read him. Then, as well as now, I still find a Seri of things that are very good.

      • Che Guevara
      1. Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR

      2. Dialectical and Historical Materialism

      3. History of the CPSU (B)

      4. The Foundations of Leninism

      5. Marxism and the National Question

      • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Stalin was the leader of the world’s first socialist state

        Socialist state is a contradiction in terms.

        Stalin was CEO of USSR Incorporated.

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          i wonder how your instance turned into a nazi bar

          • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            It didn’t. And I’m an anarchist.

            If you’re going to rely on ad hominems, you should at least try to make them somewhat accurate and relevant.

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              You have the fucking nerve to say that after calling the USSR a corporation. You’re not even a radlib; you’re a Christopher Hitchens neocon.

              And yes your instance is a nazi bar. You just recently had to be shamed into banning one of your mods ADVOCATING for the holocaust.

              • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Um… no. I’m an anarchist.

                And you sound like a helicopter parent who’s balanced on that fine line between hysterical tears and explosive rage because somebody at the playground said something mean about their darling USSR.

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                  Yeah well you’re also this bad thing with a tediously long unfunny description

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          Socialism can have a state, a contradiction in terms would be a communist state or an anarchist state. Socialism is simply a mode of production by which public, collectivized production is the principle aspect of the economy. The USSR was not a business, nor were the “profits” distributed to public officials, that just wasn’t how the soviet economy functioned.

        • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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          No it isn’t. Socialism has a state, only communism doesn’t. No matter how you define state.

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      It’s not just a matter of the US being worse, this undermines the credibility of every single accusation regarding human rights that the US makes about any other country

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    “USA bad so Soviets good” is also propaganda.

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      USA bad, tankies gonna tank. Idk what their point even is, just edgy internet bullshit.

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      Propaganda just means pushing a particular viewpoint, said viewpoint can be correct. Secondly, the point isn’t that the soviets were good because the US is bad, but that the soviets are judged unfairly and harshly compared to their peers, a product of the Red Scare.

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      Google the etymology of the word ‘propaganda’.

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      Just because it’s propaganda doesn’t mean it’s not true

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        you just blew somebody’s mind right there

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          The last time I said that and posted a dictionary entry definition, the user without an original thought claimed that’s not the way the average person uses the word and I’m wrong. 🤷‍♀️

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            Should have told the to pop a gander at deez nuts

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        Holodomor?

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          Joseph Gobbles lives on

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          Nobody denies that there was a famine in the 1930s, what leftists deny is the idea that it was intentional. The myth that the 1930s famine was intentional is largely disregarded by modern soviet historians.

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          Yeah what?

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            • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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              Isn’t it interesting how this version of him has many medals, yet he is usually only pictured sporting one medal: Hero of the Soviet Union

              From Teheran to Potsdam to Berlin

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                Yeah, although it’s not Hero of the Soviet Union medal, he recieved that one only after WW2 victory (and exactly for leading USSR during war). The one he always wore before, including on the photos you linked is Hero of Socialist Labour medal, easily distinguishable up close by slimmer star and hammer and sickle in the middle, but looking pretty similar from afar.

                • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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                  Ah, that’s right. Very hard to tell, but in one of the photos of him it does seem to have a hammer and sickle on it.

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            This is fake. I read he used a giant spoon. Stop spreading pRoPaGaNdA.

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          A famine that happened in an area that had periodic famines for the entirety of recorded history until the communists took over, no more famines since then lol, get new material loser

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            Couldn’t find any info on periodic famines at that area. Do you mind sharing any clue, like name, specific area, years? Genuinely interested.

            On communist part. Ukraine SSR was established in 22, Holodomor started in 32. Famine in Tatarstan started in 21, year after Tatar ASSR established. So something not adding up. Even if one ignores those. There were no famines after USSR collapse in both areas. Feel free to point one if I’m missing something.

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