Can someone help me get my head around Europe’s fear of Russia? I’ve commented, many times, that the EU needs to get off their ass and take their neighbor seriously, but why are so many military and political leaders expecting an all out war?
Russia is struggling to kick their little cousin’s ass. Even if they steamroll Ukraine next week, they seem seriously weakened, mainly in manpower, but also in steel and tech.
What am I not seeing? Why do these leaders think Russia could prosecute a war against NATO any time soon? I know we Americans are off the table, at least as far as trust is concerned. But NATO vs. Russia?!
If Russia did go to war with the eu any time soon they’d really need china / the US’ overt backing. Like, more than just guns + tech but direct involvement.
I doubt an all out war on russias side is a viable long term thing for the us, so they’d need a way to bring china into it. I’ve wondered how they’d go about doing that.
Can someone help me get my head around Europe’s fear of Russia? I’ve commented, many times, that the EU needs to get off their ass and take their neighbor seriously, but why are so many military and political leaders expecting an all out war?
Probably because they know that a war (big or small that it is) is the only way for Putin to stay in power. And Russia already shown that every treaty they sign is worth less than the paper used to write it.
Russia is your alcoholic village bully. Constantly lying, stealing stuff they like, and they only understand a punch in the face the sooner the better.
At this point they mess with “lost drones” in Poland, and others in Germany, while making decisions is hard, given that theres a thin line between personal freedom and safety of public infrastructures.
Russia would never be able to conquer Europe. It would definitely be able and more importantly, willing, to try and attack it anyway. It still has lots of young and old men it considers useless that its very willing to give up in the meat grinder for this.
You have to realize that Putin isn’t exactly a normal human being. As far as sociopaths go, I think he’s a big one. And he has an army and nukes.
WOW we bought weapons! It’s almost like we have a gigantic threat looming over us! We, unlike Russians, don’t start wars anymore. We live in democracies where war is extremely unpopular. It’s insane to say that we would start a war just to use the weapons we bought for safety.
Can someone help me get my head around Europe’s fear of Russia? I’ve commented, many times, that the EU needs to get off their ass and take their neighbor seriously, but why are so many military and political leaders expecting an all out war?
Russia is struggling to kick their little cousin’s ass. Even if they steamroll Ukraine next week, they seem seriously weakened, mainly in manpower, but also in steel and tech.
What am I not seeing? Why do these leaders think Russia could prosecute a war against NATO any time soon? I know we Americans are off the table, at least as far as trust is concerned. But NATO vs. Russia?!
I think Russia has shown that just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean they don’t try anyway.
Its probably Russia + China or Russia + USA, both want the EU dead and their population opposing it doesnt mean shit
I’ve been thinking about this.
If Russia did go to war with the eu any time soon they’d really need china / the US’ overt backing. Like, more than just guns + tech but direct involvement.
I doubt an all out war on russias side is a viable long term thing for the us, so they’d need a way to bring china into it. I’ve wondered how they’d go about doing that.
Probably because they know that a war (big or small that it is) is the only way for Putin to stay in power. And Russia already shown that every treaty they sign is worth less than the paper used to write it.
Russia is your alcoholic village bully. Constantly lying, stealing stuff they like, and they only understand a punch in the face the sooner the better. At this point they mess with “lost drones” in Poland, and others in Germany, while making decisions is hard, given that theres a thin line between personal freedom and safety of public infrastructures.
*drones in poland, germany, belgium, the netherlands and more
NATO is mainly the US + supporting acts atm. And the US has proven to be an unreliable ally, so…
Even without the US I’d still expect NATO to win, but you want to be so strong that the enemy won’t even consider attacking.
Russia would never be able to conquer Europe. It would definitely be able and more importantly, willing, to try and attack it anyway. It still has lots of young and old men it considers useless that its very willing to give up in the meat grinder for this.
You have to realize that Putin isn’t exactly a normal human being. As far as sociopaths go, I think he’s a big one. And he has an army and nukes.
I think because it is not only Russia. There is a new block building and China could try a proxy war via Russia.
EU countries bought a ton of weapons already, it’d be a waste not to use them.
Also just the rule of capital loving war - we’re currently in a profit rate crisis, and war is really good to prop up the economy.
Also, having millions of working class soldiers and conscripts get put in the meaningless meat grinder is a sport for many nation-states.
WOW we bought weapons! It’s almost like we have a gigantic threat looming over us! We, unlike Russians, don’t start wars anymore. We live in democracies where war is extremely unpopular. It’s insane to say that we would start a war just to use the weapons we bought for safety.