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    11 hours ago

    Come on, Euros, don’t fall for American bullshit. Do something about your own shitty leaders who are leading you down the garden path.

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      Brits are hard-on to ape the American model whilst having a fraction of the economic & military power. Americans can act like morons because at the end of the day they have a 30 trillion dollar strong economy and the world’s most powerful military.

      Let’s see how little Britain fares on the America lite model.

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    Why is this even on the table… oh yeah:

    the hastily agreed trade deal with the US

    Fucking $deity I can’t believe so many politicians a) play Trump’s obvious game and b) still cling to the “USA our friend & ally” narratvie of decades past.

    “with respect to automobiles, the United States and the European Union intend to accept and provide mutual recognition to each other’s standards.” Yet, EU vehicle safety regulations have supported a 36% reduction in European road deaths since 2010. By contrast, road deaths in the US over the same period increased 30%, with pedestrian deaths up 80% and cyclist deaths up 50%.

    No shit. For once I hope the word “intend” is as empty as it sounds. I don’t see the US delivering on that anyhow.

    Is there a petition we can sign?

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      the hastily agreed trade deal with the US

      I still have so many questions;

      • is there actually a tradedeal and who can supervise it? won’t be WTO afaik…

      • according to US law this ( maybe all) recent tradedeals are unconstitutional, as they never passed Congress.

      • whatever deal there is, will still need ratification by EP and memberstates.

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      I disagree with your use of $diety, as it’s not inclusive. It should be an array, not a scalar.

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      When you accept and reframe the situation from the POV that the EU is an American vassal, everything will click into place.

      God forbid we align closer with China and create a Eurasian pole of power /s

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          The EU should be humble for once and learn how to do manufacturing from the Chinese.

          Ignoring China as a world player is naive

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            Are we living in the same continent? I mean if you’re Chinese I get where you are coming from. But your name suggest a Spanish connection. Are more people apart from your curent PM Sanchez, really falling for all that CPC propaganda?

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              The name is literally a generated Docker container name, anyways, I’m European.

              What propaganda? That China is by all means, the world’s largest manufacturer, and pushing the envelope in terms of Military Industrial innovations, STEM graduates per capita, etc?

              I go to China for work regularly, besides people looking to model France’s ability to get people to fall in love with its brands, no one there cares about the EU, because they see it as worthless and stuck.

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                  I live in Europe, I also prefer Euro grass. I just want us to stop thinking we’re the shit, when we’re actually shit and no one cares about the EU because nothing worthwhile comes from this continent atm

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        Would you ever jog on. I’d bet cold, hard cash that you haven’t been to both places.

        I have and I can tell you that even under the current administration, we are ideologically far closer to one than the other when you talk with actual humans.

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          We can be as ideologically similar, policy-wise, we’re an obedient dog with a masochism kink.

          “Yes daddy Trump, we’ll take all your child killer gas guzzlers and destroy our urban planning for more car friendly cities. What’s that? Yes sure we’ll also take a 15% tariff, and we’ll do it with a smile”

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    If I start seeing these cars around here I’ll start carrying a knife with me and puncturing some tires until their owners get the message.

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      Green lentils. Open the valve cap, put one in, and screw it back on. If you don’t screw it too tight the tyre will deflate slowly and by the time anyone notices it’s empty, you’ll be long gone.

      Also, deflating tyres without damaging them actually might not be illegal in many jurisdictions. In Finland a court ruled that deflating bicycle tyres is not illegal – the only thing it could fall under was vandalism, but it doesn’t cause any damage so it couldn’t be vandalism.

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        It’d be illegal in Sweden as egenmäktigt förfarande. Is there nothing similar in Finland?

        For example, if you were to put a lock on someone’s bike, would that not be illegal? The idea with egenmäktigt förfarande is that you’re disturbing someone’s right to use their property.

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          I do not know about locking someone else’s bike.

          The tyre deflation thing is from a court case where a man who was on trial for harassing a woman had deflated the woman’s bike tyres while she was in the shop. She came back to find the tyres deflated and had no pump so she rode the bike back to her house with deflated tyres, which damaged the rims. Seeking compensation for the damaged rims was part of her claim, but the court denied the claim because deflating the tyres was not what damaged them, but rather riding back on deflated tyres.

          Of course Finnish court system does not work on precedent, so there’s no guarantee the same logic would apply to cars, or the sacred steel cow as they are known as here, so it’s best to not get caught.

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    Where would those monstrosities even go? Aren’t the streets of most European countries too narrow for them? Or will they then decide to get rid of all the historical structure to fit some gigantic vehicles that won’t even last that long?

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      Yes, that’s the thing: driving around in such a ridiculous car in the US is stupid enough, but in Europe it’s even more so.

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      Kinda. We definitely don’t have the parking space for them. But I’m already seeing stupid US pickups (e.g. Dodge Ram) on our streets, their owners just don’t care.

      Also, a lot of places in Europe don’t have much left of their historical structures anyway. There was a great war, and then they bulldozed some more in the 50s to build car infrastructure.

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        I mean, I’ve seen plenty of narrow streets from walkers in Italy, Spain, and such, with non-modern architecture. I don’t mean just museum-grade historical, just normal houses and apartments with a more “classic” look.

        Edited to add: Needless to say, destroying all of that will make housing even more expensive in the bigger cities. All for a handful of people’s ego trips.

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          Europe is a big place and in particular Italy is the place to see hundreds of years old narrow streets, and Spain is kind of famous (in certain circles) for heavily concentrating their urban centers despite having a lot of space compared to many other western european countries. You need to have actually had a lot of cities in the time periods where narrow streets were normal, many other countries were very rural until the 19th or even 20th century.

          If you want to see European cities with lots of car-friendly infrastructure, look at places that were extensively bombed in WW2, like Germany, England or Belgium, or ones that weren’t that urbanized until the 20th century like most countries east of Germany.