TL;DW: Fast charging over 2 years only degraded the battery an extra 0.5%, even on extremely fast charging Android phones using 120W.

And with that, hopefully we can put this argument to rest.

  • MurrayL@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Non-magnetically-aligned wireless chargers are far worse than fast charging.

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        13 hours ago

        At killing batteries faster - the wasted energy creates heat, which degrades the battery.

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          11 hours ago

          But keep in mind the phone will throttle charging speeds when it gets warm, so the battery doesn’t end up getting much warmer, it just takes forever to get a full charge (especially when using a thick case that puts further space between the charging coils and also acts as thermal insulation, thus reduces the phones ability to cool down)

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          10 hours ago

          They tested that too, actually. Heat, I mean. It’s in a different one of the channels videos. It’s easy to find, since the channel only has like 10 videos and only a few are about phones .

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          7 hours ago

          It’s literally a few watt hours. Not kilowatt hours, watt hours. I pay $0.08 per kwh, so after a few years of wireless charging I might pay $1 more

          But the USB-C cord might break in less than that time and cost more. Manufacturing cords is never going to be green, but electricity can be made renewable

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            6 hours ago

            The charging pad might also break and they require cables themselves, plus all the materials to make the charging pad, plus every phone has to support wireless, which is even more materials. I’ve never broken a USB-C cable, that’s a user issue, you are either being way too aggressive with them, buying low quality ones, or both.

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      13 hours ago

      Wireless charging is a gimmick like 3D TV was. There’s only one use case, and it’s car use. But it doesn’t need to be fast. In every other case it’s worse than cable in every aspect

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          12 hours ago

          You’re so cool. You can just throw your phone at charging plate to cook itself, while you can’t use it. But it looks cool. Cool tech for cool people.

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            11 hours ago

            It makes my wife considerably less pissed off when I come to bed late and am not fumbling with cables, so it’s a win for me.

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        A phone with wireless charging is a bit niche, but if only all my little devices had wireless charging; earbuds, vape, tablet, controller, remote, etc. I’d set a charging mat in the middle of the coffee table and have all my devices just be charged and ready to go. Now it’s just a mess of wires, with the only thing I keep glued to my hand featuring wireless charging!?

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          12 hours ago

          I’m hoping for ranged wireless charging. Everything is always charged when Im inside.

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            9 hours ago

            Not doable without some very expensive addons to your house - like IR charging from ceiling

            Everything is always charged when Im inside.

            That’s living in microwave, I’d say its not going to ever happen

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        10 hours ago

        Wireless charging sucks. It costs significantly more energy to charge the same battery to full.

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          7 hours ago

          Your phone doesn’t have that much energy stored in it. 5 watt hours or so? Now consider the energy cost of making usb-c cords

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            6 hours ago

            The charging pad itself probably requires a USB-C cable itself? It takes much more materials to make them than a cable…

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        13 hours ago

        yup, the chinese brand have it right. Fast charging is amazing, just put the phone on charge for like 10-20 minutes and you can forget about your battery for another day. It’s great.

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          9 hours ago

          I have a one plus phone.

          The super vook charging works very well. It feels like less than 10 minutes to go from 10 to 80 percent.