https://mander.xyz/post/42872387

I received insults

Someone even posted photos of dead bodies

These comments weren’t reviewed, but I was permanently blocked because my political stance is to hope for the reunification of my country. They said I have nothing to offer, just spreading propaganda and negativity.

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        The people of Crimea may well wish to join (or remain) in Russia. Donbass? Impossible to say. Not as Russian as Crimea.

        Was this supposed to be a gotcha?

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            Crimea? Via referendum, sure.

            I don’t really regard the referendums conducted in the occupied regions of Ukraine to be valid at all.

            Do you support Taiwan’s self-determination?

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              I don’t really regard the referendums conducted in the occupied regions of Ukraine to be valid at all.

              Looool. "Who cares what the people living there think: I, an enlightened westerner, have decided that they are invalid.

              Do you support Taiwan’s self-determination?

              I support Taiwanese peoples right to self determination

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                Looool. "Who cares what the people living there think: I, an enlightened westerner, have decided that they are invalid.

                Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?

                I support Taiwanese peoples right to self determination

                And if they say “We don’t want to be a part of the PRC” would you accept that?

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                  How convenient: any time you don’t like the result of a referendum, just declare that it can’t be trusted.

                  And if they say “We don’t want to be a part of the PRC” would you accept that?

                  Yes: unlike you I wouldn’t just declare “well clearly the RoC government just rigged the vote.”

                  Would you accept if they did choose to be part of the PRC?

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                    How convenient: any time you don’t like the result of a referendum, just declare that it can’t be trusted.

                    Not what I asked you: Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?

                    Yes: unlike you I wouldn’t just declare “well clearly the RoC government just rigged the vote.”

                    The referendums in the Russian occupied regions were not conducted by Ukraine under any kind of neutral parties observation. Many Ukrainians who lived there had outright fled the regions due to the war, and could not vote - moreover, Russia didn’t even occupy all of the regions they held these referendums in. Moreover, are you normalising and justifying the idea of a state just invading chunks of land and them legitimising their conquest via dodgy referendums?

                    Would you accept if they did choose to be part of the PRC?

                    Yes.

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        Are you of the opinion the situation in Palestine is remotely equivalent to that of Northern Ireland?

        And you did not answer my question. What do the people of Northern Ireland want?

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          I’m of the opinion that our struggle has been shared, as attested to by the history of anti-colonial collaboration between our countries.

          They can live in Ireland or move back to the UK.

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            Right, that’s still not what I asked you. I’m not asking what you think should happen. I’m asking you what do the people of Northern Ireland want now?

            The people in Northern Ireland can move between Ireland and the UK, move into the UK - enjoy equal rights. There’s no system of apartheid. They have their own institutions. They can use those institutions to eventually acquire independence, providing there’s enough support.

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                So lets go further. What do people who live in Ireland want? Do they want to launch a violent assault on Northern Ireland? What are you even proposing here?

                Is everyone in Northern Ireland a coloniser, or are they only colonisers if they happen to disagree with unifying Northern Ireland with Ireland?

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                  Yes, polling has shown support for Irish reunification since independence.

                  I am not proposing anything? I have said I do not condone the only effective tool we have, the only one that has ever given us our freedom.

                  Yes. You live in a colony, you’re a coloniser. It’s not complicated.

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                    Yes, polling has shown support for Irish reunification since independence.

                    Supporting Irish reunification is not the same as supporting achieving that through violent ends.

                    I have said I do not condone the only effective tool we have, the only one that has ever given us our freedom.

                    I misread it originally, but plenty of countries in the modern-era have achieved independence without violence.

                    Yes. You live in a colony, you’re a coloniser. It’s not complicated.

                    So does that include people of Irish background who do not support an immediate, instant unification with Ireland?