• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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    As you can see from the comments, libs are way more delusional than in your meme, they aren’t even admitting the three first lines.

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      1. Nobody has paid for the drones used by Ukraine for free, except those who were paid by money collected through voluntary donations by private citizens like myself. The states who partook in the war effort did so in form of loans to the Ukrainian state. Loans are to be repaid in time and are no gift

      2. Not only the CIA has shared intel with Ukraine, the English, French, Italian, Polish and German services also are reporting their findings to Ukraine, especially since when the cheeto-in-command has decided that the CIA should cooperate less with the sbu because his friend put-it-in was being butthurt too much on the battlefield

      3. Nobody’s using Ukraine as a proxy, Ukraine is defending itself from an aggressor and other states are supporting its endeavours as they see fit. To stop this “proxy” war as you call it, it would suffice for Russia to return its troops to its territory. As long as they will be occupying Ukrainian land the resistance against its occupation will not stop, wether it be a structured fight between two armies or a resistance guerrilla by lone men and groups against the invader

      So, who’s the delusional one here?

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        Ukraine is supported by the western empire for the same reason Israel is, it’s a glorified US millitary base in the region surrounded by geopolitical adversaries. Russia will not stop their advance while they are clearly winning, and the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics already voted to join the Russian Federation. The idea that there will be guerilla resistance is just unfounded, Kiev has been at war with the Donbass region for a decade.

        Europe is increasingly being demoted from imperialist vassals of the US Empire to periphery countries. Europe has very little hard power compared to the major players in the world stage and is utterly dependent on the US Empire’s hard power. The soft power Europe has is slipping as well. No amount of your homophobic pejoratives will change the fact that Europe doesn’t bring much to the table despite being the loudest ones there, and that’s why they are in fewer and fewer international talks where major powers are involved.

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        Said the one defending the only actor in this war using the same tactics used by Hitler before the start of ww2. If you weren’t a brainwashed tankie you’d be even amusing but, alas, you’re only a mouthpiece for the last vestige of the Russian dictatorship

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      Lmao, the only way to respond to my criticism to this meme is to cancel my reply. Obvious tyrannical people being themselves as always

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        You repeated literal Nazi rhetoric about “Russian hordes” and spouted Eurochauvanism, then went on to accuse people of being “brainwashed,” which itself is a fantasy idea used to terminate discussion.

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          How should I call an army invading a neighbour country if not a “horde”? Viruses? Bacteria? Tell me what analogy I should use and I’ll do it

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            You can call them invaders if you really want to use that analogy. You don’t need to rely on racism and dehumanization, but Euronationalists always reach for those as y’all have done for centuries.

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              It would be easier for me to avoid dehumanising the Russian if they weren’t the first one to dehumanise Ukrainians in their rhetoric. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you, if they feel bad for being compared to non-human concepts they might want to rethink their entire way of behaviour

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                Ah yes the dehumanizing Russian rhetoric towards the Ukrainians of… *checks notes* calling them a brotherly people. Smh…how awful of them.

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                  As should the russians. Why should I be the first to correct my way when I haven’t even invaded my neighbour through a war which has killed tens of thousands of innocent people?

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        “I broke the rules, and they removed my comment! This is an outrage!”

        Please point me to a “non-tyranical” com then

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    Replace “America” with “voluntary coalition of countries and individuals who promote freedom and justice and wish to build and maintain a world of international laws and norms”

    In a completely unrelated public service announcement: Watch out for mouthpieces for manufactured grievances and loyal echoers of other’s lies.

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      The US has never promoted freedom or justice for anyone that wasn’t rich, and participation in our empire’s agenda has never been voluntary

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      “voluntary coalition of countries and individuals who promote freedom and justice and wish to build and maintain a world of international laws and norms”

      This propaganda was obviously always bullshit, but it was killed for good in the ruins of Gaza: anyone still spouting it is either knowingly lying or 12

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      Replace “America” with “voluntary coalition of countries and individuals who promote freedom and justice

      I would really wish to replace the US Empire and their wardog vassals with what you wrote.

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        Trump and JD Vance are doing their best to replace the US as the “leader of the free world” with a coalition of increasingly well armed and assertive independent blocs and states. Totally wild to see it cut its own throat like that.

        The rest aren’t really wardogs, despite France and the UK seizing the opportunity in Libya a few years back. I don’t think the UK was quite over the Lockerbie bombing, and who the fuck knows with France.

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      Involuntary coalition of countries who promote oppression and injustice and wish to maintain a world of white supremacy and bourgeois rule

      Aka the “burgerland empire”