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    It is time to truly act against the oligarchs, their true masters. Bring pain to where they sleep, pray, dine and leisure

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      It’s NOT illegal to say “with a mortar launcher” because it’s most definitely an incomplete sentence that definitely had absolutely nothing to do with the President. Nope. Definitely not the President. No one at all.

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    So it was initially attempted murder, then by denying her aid, full on murder.

    Also remember what the pigs said, Jonathan Ross of Minnesota said “fucking bitch” after he shot her. And another said “I don’t care” when asked by the medical person to go to her aid.

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    The cruelty is the point.

    This is partly why I hate Obama so much. He had so many opportunities to reform this (Ferguson sticks out the most) and instead he doubled down on militarized police.

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      LMAO, trump has built a gestapo, is terrorizing and murdering people, and is now trying to take over large parts of the world, Hitler style, and you’re talking about Obama? Fucking hell.

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        Not very big on history I see. Go look up who first appointed Tom Homan.

        Thank you for making that clear in your first reply, and have a nice evening.

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          You realize that trump was impeached twice by the dems and the republicans wouldn’t let that happen? There are so many things to focus on right now, Obama isn’t one of them.

          You also have a nice evening.

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            We expect the republicans to build fascism. We don’t expect the only opposition to fascism at the federal level to maintain and expand those same institutions.

            The dems expect us to vote for them, but fund Trump’s gestapo at every opportunity.

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          Obama and Boden and most Dems are similar to Van Papen in that they thought they could just restrain fascism and it would pass. Instead, by attempting to restrain it, they emboldened fascism and allowed it to thrive.

          But they are not cancer itself. Fascism is. They were just unfit to provide any opposition to it.

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      Obama bombed civilian targets. Don’t let the current crap create the illusion that before Trump all presidents were peaceful rainbow good guys.

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        This is true but let’s choose not total Nazi party if at all possible. I know we don’t actually have the right to vote for our president… We should say “their president” since we don’t actually vote for a president. But we get to choose local government officials, judges and representatives…basically the useless leaches that is not empowered by our way of government to do anything about a president who is clearly a senile crazy racist asshole. So this pile of dung is just there getting paid all the money that could go into filling potholes. But we can vote for a different pile of politician dung.

        I’d like the guarantee of an effective and equal vote for every single American older than 15 years old. None of this fucking representative shit. If you want more representation because you live at the peak of a mountain…move? Otherwise our government should figure out why rebuilding a road to your house is important to the rest of us. Like if your farm is the only right handed peach farm in the world, heck yeah, get you a high-speed rail station, I want some right handed peaches. Everyone is aware of food and where it comes from. I think farmers need as much support as we can provide since their production makes all of our lives better. I’d like to reroute police pay to farmers. Brand spanking new Crownvic combines for every farmer ever year LOL.

        Our government needs to serve us. It doesn’t now.

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      DHS, ICE, and CBP were established by acts of congress. Obama couldnt have just gotten rid of them or reformed them beyond executive orders which he did with things such as DACA for Dreamers.

      Congress would have acted if he acted illegally like Trump does today as congress abdicates.

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        DHS, ICE, and CBP were established by acts of congress. Obama couldnt have just gotten rid of them or reformed them beyond executive orders

        Obama had a democratic majority in both houses of Congress for his first 2 years in offic

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          We were also actively in Iraq and his super majority would not have supported him if he wanted to abolish DHS or ICE

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            Perhaps not, but Obama and his supermajority in Congress still didn’t do shit about fuck about anything, even within the horizon of political possibility of the time.

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      You hate Obama? Despite his flaws Obama was easily the most ethical President we’ve had in generations. With our current system and political climate I see him being about as good as it gets.

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        Lol such a low bar.

        Clinton opened the gates to let the money bros ruin everything.

        G.W.B. started a war to nab them wmd’s oil

        Obama went along with the status quo.

        Trump… well fuck

        Biden was fucking useless

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            I wish the bullet that got President Garfield traveled through time and did in Governor Reagan instead.

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          Theyre all useless because they’re all part of a system to protect capital and exploit the masses. I know its more nuanced than that but I dont care, I help people when I can and someone in that position should too.

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          It’s a systemic issue that provides us such terrible candidates. Pretending the bar can be set higher, GIVEN THE CURRENT SYSTEM, is naively optimistic.

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            Y’know, it’s very believable and absolutely worth investigating, but the Trump admin has the full epstein files, if there was something truly damning about Clinton in them they would literally be unable to shut up about it. They would be trying to drown out everything else shouting that investigation from the rooftops. I’m really starting to think it’s BS and Clinton just let himself get schmoozed by Esptein like a lot of people did.

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              The only reason both the Trump and Biden admins wouldn’t release the files is if powerful names within both parties are in it.

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    This isn’t that shocking if you’ve watched a lot of police videos in the USA. It seems to me they put themselves first and everything else comes second. I’ve seen countless videos where they have shot someone and it takes so long to get medical help.

    Here in the Uk i don’t see that. We put people first. If you’re guilty of a heinous crime you still have a right to life and a trial. The cops are not here to execute you.

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      They famously don’t even have guns here most of the time.
      Which is fine, because no-one else has guns either.

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        But we still don’t kill people that often. Even if someone has a knife I’ve seen like 20 feds with riot shields disarm them and arrest them as preserving life is important.

        Even if you have a knife in America you’re being shot dead.

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          I think that police should only have a shotgun in the trunk of their police cruiser. The dispatcher has to remotely unlock the trunk, and then grant permission to the shotgun. Our law enforcers should be held to a higher standard when it comes to deploying violence, and be fully on the record.

          They can have telescopic batons, which also require the remote unlock from dispatch. Again, to ensure that when force is deployed, the state is responsible. An officer who deploys force without permission, should be treated as suspect in a court of law.

          Same goes for grenades to need dispatch’s authority. All weapons and cameras should automatically have records sent to federal, state, and civil rights groups.

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          If the cop just gets impatient, you’re shot.

          So many situations can be deescalated safely by having some form of patience.

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      Life is cheap to them, and they wholly subscribe to using violence and threats as a solution to most problems. No problem can’t be solved by: slapping, shooting, punching, beating the shit out of, running over, jailing, starving, or otherwise humiliating and ostracizing the offending party. Kids out of line? Tan ‘em. Prius in front of your truck driving too slow? Run ‘em over. Some lib mouthing off to ICE? Shoot ‘em.

      I assume it’s lack of intelligence, laziness, and selfishness. The inability to understand nuance and complexity to work out alternative solutions, the unwillingness to expend the effort to understand anything other than their reductionist and myopic view, and the resistance to it costing them anything, monetarily, ego-wise, or having to change anything about their behavior.

      So when some authority figure on “their team” uses one of the aforementioned methods to force compliance, they all cheer like it’s a football game. Their side scored a point, they were right, and they’ll punch anyone that tries to tell them different. The right’s propaganda machine has been running steadily and successfully at it’s current level since Reagan to demonize the left and since 9/11 immigrants and foreigners, so anyone not with them isn’t human anymore.

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      Because they’ve wholly bought into the idea that it’s not “Americans” that are dying, it’s “The Enemy” that is. That they wouldn’t have died if they didn’t do something to “deserve” it.

      It’s just like the Myth of Meritocracy. If you got it then you deserved it, the proof that you deserved it is that you got it.

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        MAGA has certainly convinced me that they aren’t patriots. I now consider them to be Dogey Americans, servants of an evil regime and avatars of malice.

        It ain’t great that things have become black and white like this, but it is pretty clear that there isn’t room for nuance anymore.

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      It’s not a question of rights but of power. The ones with warm guns refused medical attention to Renee.

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      I don’t know if you’re serious (you can’t be, right?), but the armed men who just shot someone denied him access, despite him being right there and asking to help her. They also blocked the ambulance from getting to the scene.

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      By other agents, when a doctor presented and offered to help. They would not let the doctor through.

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        Snark was my immediate reaction, and saying nothing was the best I could accomplish, so I (srsly) marvel at your patience and dedication to teaching.

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          I like to think of it as commentary written not only to educate the dolt who made the dumb statement but also to set the record straight for other readers. (even though something tells me that level of stupidity is intentional or they’re trolling…but i have a hard time understanding idiots ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )

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        I was on my way to sleep and I read the title without reading the article and I commented the first question that came to my mind. I owe you grumpy judgmental rude vocal internet addicts no further explanation or apologies.

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          Shooting from the hip with this topic and claiming to be sleepy lmao you should get in on the action with your awful thought processes and excuses

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          It’s the willful ignorance to this cruelty in your comments & other conservative talking points that is appalling

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            Yep. I’ll continue giving some folks the benefit of the doubt when it seems appropriate but I’m not mincing words with folks I determine to be of bad faith or Nazis.