Despite the ongoing military assault on Iran, President Donald Trump insisted the U.S. hasn't "started hitting them hard" yet, and said that "the big one is coming soon."Trump made the remarks Monday morning in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper."I just got off the phone with President Trump," Tapp...
He’s gonna nuke them isn’t he.
A nuke would be a BRIGHT RED LINE for the entire world. He absolutely cannot deploy a nuclear weapon. If he does, we need to help every other nation on the planet topple the MAGA government in every way possible. Bomb DC to rubble, and hunt down every MAGA politician and propagandist with extreme prejudice.
I have no faith the world would do shit. Particularly if the nuke is “limited” or “targeted” or “pinpoint” or whatever bullshit they want to use to justify mass murder.
Any nation using nukes and getting away with it would trigger a massive nuclear race in the entire world as everybody tried to nukes (either to defend themselves from those with nukes since the possibility of nukes being used offensivelly had become a reality, or to themselves engage in wars of conquest using nukes against nations without nukes) and in a World with many more nuclear armed nations sooner or later other nations too would use nukes, in an escalating fashion, ultimatelly leading to nuclear war all over the planet and the end of our civilization as we know it and possibly even Humanity.
This is why EVERYBODY, allies included, would turn against any nation that used nukes - it would be the only way to stop an escalation that would innevitably lead to a nuclear holocaust.
For all their threats to do so, it’s not by chance that Russia did not use nukes in Ukraine: amongst others the Chinese made it very clear that any use of nuclear weapons was a hard red line for them.
“Defensive” nuclear strike.
We should be doing all that regardless.
The problem is most of us still have too much to lose
People who still think they have too much to lose haven’t realized they have no future to hold onto anymore, and that it’s already lost. There’s higher chance of survival in the long term if we actually did all that as opposed to sitting around like cattle working hard to afford making babies for them to fuck.
I admire your optimism. If Trump drops a smallish nuke on a remote reactor facility, we will get grave concern at best. The world has shown its hand already. It isn’t going to do shit, and nobody is coming to help us.
The world would “express great concern” and Americans would sit on their asses and do nothing.
I keep hearing that if he does this thing or that thing, it will be the last straw and America/the world won’t stand for it. Then he does it, or something equally bad, and still nothing happens. Then people say yeah but if he does this next thing, it’ll be the last straw. It’s all just an excuse for why America and the world don’t do something NOW! why wait?
I don’t think he cares what the rest of t world thinks.
All he cares about is what people think of him.
He drops a Nuke, and he’ll be remembered for all time. So will the MAGA bloodbath that will follow. Killing the Top 40 Iranians will be nothing compared to the number of MAGA politicians who would die.
Lol you make it sound like there’s anyone in America who’d actually stand up and do anything of that nature. They’re all too fat and placated by dorritos to peel themselves off their couches and protest, let alone take any more significant actions. A third of them couldn’t even be bothered to vote last time around, when the dictator who’d tried to violently overthrow the American government got back into power and started all this shit again.
You’re still living in some sort of American exceptionalism fantasy. The country is an authoritarian dictatorship at this point, with a paramilitary that has more funding than most foreign armies, and a mandate to terrorize/pacify American dissent.
Realistically? Trump drops a nuke. MAGAs and America cheer, because “Nuke make big boom! MURICA STRONG!! USA USA USA!!”. American/North American media whitewashes it as acceptable and good, just like all the zionist shit is whitewashed as acceptable and good. Americas moderates shrug and open a new bag of potato chips, waiting for aliens to show up on their Fox news feeds. Left wing Americans send thoughts and prayers if they’re too poor to get out, or if theyre rich, they immigrate (like Angelina Jolie) to get away from a country they now view as inhumane. The democrats come out supporting the nuking too, as theyre entirely captured by Israel and AIPAC stuff. Russia then bombs Ukraine, and maybe some EU countries – America spins that as proof that they were weak and were failed states moving towards “civilizational collapse”, something they’ve already laid the groundwork for claiming, and redoubles its efforts to annex Canada and Greenland, and to subdue/castrate any upstarts in south America, likely with increased threats of bombing them all with nukes. China takes Taiwan, cause if Nukes are free to use, there’s nothing really stopping them from doing so given general proximity – you can’t easily “park” a naval carrier group anywhere at sea to feign a projection of power, if your enemies are fine nuking the entire area to oblivion. That’s one reason the states is so against Iran getting nukes I imagine – it limits the deterrent influence of their more conventional military assets. Sorta like how the USA suddenly got real quiet about North Korea and the “DOOOM!!!” that’d occur if they got nukes… once NK actually got nukes (and the doom didn’t occur! surprise! but trust us, Israel says Iran’s different!).
Directly nuking a country that has nuclear capabilities would likely still be ‘off the table’ generally, as it’d trigger potential retaliation. But the rest get screwed. The USA has already walked away from its commitment to things like NATO, and has openly said they’re fine letting Russia ‘do whatever the hell they want’ with European countries.
The above string of events sounds far fetched. But I find it far more believable than to think that Americans will actually do something about the shit their administration/country is pushing.
I was told the reason Americans needed guns was in case of a tyrannical government
You know hundreds of thousands of people live there, right?
Government workers, not real people.
This would be sociopathic enough but no not everyone the the dc metro area is a government worker.
Yes, I do, so evacuate them, and the Art. Then hunt those MAGA politicians down like the feral rabid animals they are.
This is in response to a NUCLEAR attack by MAGA, there will be no mercy for them. Any MAGA who voted for it, supported it, excused it, or defended it, is on The List.
With those caveats I am totally on board
In Tehran too. Thousands living in Baghdad didn’t stop us. A world leader willing and able to use nukes in a war they started with a non nuclear enemy is an extinction level threat. In 45 it was one thing, but we can carpet the other side of the planet with fusion warheads now.
All of this is obviously bad, I’m not sure why it would be assumed I’m defending Trump or whatever it is going on here.
Actually him ordering a nuke and the military command flat-out refusing might be what his cronies need to finally realize he’s a danger to the whole world.
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If he nukes Iran, it has to be over. That has to be the moment that the US military steps up and coups the crap out of Washington and hangs all the traitors. There is no coming back from that.
I really hope not. But we all know he’s a complete piece of shit.
One thing I learned is that no matter what my worst imagination can come up with, Trump always manages to surprise me by going beyond my wildest imagination. Of course he would toss a nuclear weapon if he thought it would help him, intimidate someone, or punish an enemy.
What a fucked up timeline to have that as a truth. Honestly, this whole thing is hitting me in a way I wasn’t expecting; I’m feeling that we are actually about to go into WW3. If you go onto All and look at the headlines, you can see which country is aligning for/against what just happened… the groundwork for the modern day Axis vs Allies.
Huh, Trump kicked off WW3. Didn’t see THAT coming!
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Good thing our military generals and service members won’t do anything illegal. Right?!?!
On one hand, nukes have been a clear deterrent for most of the time they have existed. Their use in these operations against Iran wouldn’t just be unprecedented, but it would be wasteful too: what targets require such firepower instead of other, more sensible options? It’s ironic, but nukes are arguably worse weapons when deployed versus sitting in their silos while deployment is threatened.
That said, “unprecedented” doesn’t mean much any more, and Trump is totally the kind of person who would drop one just because he can. Instead of “I am become death” we’d get “I am dropping a big, beautiful bomb. Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
But the repercussions would be massive. On a scale not yet seen. I’m not talking about repercussions from Iran: the world would need to stand up against MAGA in a big way. Much bigger than has happened so far. I’m not even sure what it would look like, frankly.
The end of Season One of “Years and Years”.
Funny how people use other movies like Idiocracy to compare where we are, but I never see this one mentioned. It’s a UK drama and the US is in the background, but the parallels that we do see are disturbingly close. Particularly in how the world shut out the US as it declined into a fascist state.
He’s dying to launch a nuke
That is the first thing that popped into my head too.