• ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Let’s have a writing contest, you guys. Now that a Trump appointee is against it, let’s all think up reasons for why subsidized high-fructose corn syrup sold as food is not only a good thing but actually a basic human right.

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        I’m not saying we should ban these things, I’m just saying we shouldn’t be subsidizing them and purchasing them with public funds. If poor people want to buy this stuff with their own money that’s their right.

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          I’m just saying we shouldn’t be subsidizing them and purchasing them with public funds.

          Then start with the ag subsidies, not the tiny joy that poor people can wring from life.

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          Ditching subsidies is a start.

          I would tax them into oblivion like cigarettes. Hits the poor first still, but it would shift consumption habits rather than ban them outright.

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      It’s a nanny state. Sure, candy and soda is bad for you, and america has an obesity problem, but I’m against this.

      Just give people money and let them buy what they want / need.

      I’m tired of pedophiles and gay homophobes shaming poor people for having a soda and a candy bar. (Edit: not my intention to associate lgbtq with pedophiles, but it seems a lot of homophobes are into it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, but republifuckers need to mind their own business in general and stop judging others for the behaviors they are ashamed to participate in themselves.)

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        At a minimum they should talk about how they will move to providing healthy foods as they cut the bad stuff. Moving to unhealthy food to none, seems like a bad move. Like wtf

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        It’s a nanny state.

        I mean yea, but so is giving you money for food. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that the food you get with it to be nutritious.

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          Just give them money, I don’t care if they want hookers and blow

          It’s none of your business what poor people spend their money on.

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            Then they spend their money on hookers and blow, and then come back saying they have no money to buy food. Do you let them starve then?

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              21 hours ago

              No. When the corporations ruin the entire economy and say they don’t have any money we also bail them out.

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                When the corporations ruin the entire economy and say they don’t have any money we also bail them out.

                Okay… so let’s stop doing that…

                But if we aren’t letting hookers and blow guy starve, how are we doing that?

                (a) give him more money, so he can spend it all on hookers and blow again and come back, still hungry, asking for more money.
                (b) ask him what food he wants, and give him that. He says he only wants to eat lollipops. We give him endless lollipops - he is no longer technically starving to death, but is now slowly dying of nutrient deficiencies.
                (c) some how, some way, choose what he should eat for him, and give him that, so that he will be somewhat healthy.

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                  I think you’re beating up a straw man here….

                  Welfare is a couple hundred dollars at most, usually much less than that.

                  Stop worrying about what everyone else is eating and worry about yourself.

                  If you want to make products healthier on a larger scale, then pass regulations concerning toxic chemicals and labeling for food products.

                  Limiting people in literal poverty from having a lollipop or a candy bar with their money is not the answer.

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                    16 hours ago

                    This is 100% not a straw man. Poor people do stupid shit to fuck up their health and waste public money all the time. I know them - they’re my family. The only problem is that they aren’t quite poor enough to be on food stamps, despite trying their damnedest to get there. And so they keep eating themselves to an early grave, because they are stupid motherfuckers who refuse to accept reality or change in any way.

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              lol… I’m just tired of people trying to gate keep basic needs as though they somehow know better than poor people what they need.

              If we checked what government subsidized millionaires and billionaires spent their money 10% as much as how we do poor people we could actually save money……

              Food stamps and wic and other programs are generally less than a couple hundred dollars. It’s not your business what they spend it on.