They’re not calling Israelis, as a group, animals. They’re calling these particular nazi douchebags animals (who happen to be the regime controlling the state of Israel at the moment).
what??? antisemitic tropes are literally the opposite of European settlers / colonialists, it’s framing them as non-white outsiders undermining European societies.
Being human is immutable, no matter your religion or criminal record. The problem here is that you seem to think that some form of moral high ground gives you the power to deprive someone of their humanity, and frankly I find that disgusting. No one gets to decide who is human and who is not.
You’re a poor excuse of a human being if you lack humanity. Stop it already, we’re talking about literal murdering pillaging colonizers. Technically not amoebae or cats, of course, and this is mostly an insult for innocent animals, but these people will be chilling with Satan for eternity.
No doubt, but murdering and forcing people out of their homes isn’t an appropriate way to deal with being persecuted. A religious document about some people millennia ago doesn’t actually give you any entitlement to someone else’s land. And from the very beginning, Zionism’s goal was to exclude Arabs from the region, based on plain racist hatred. Just because they were victims of antisemitism in Europe does not mean they couldn’t continue to perpetrate their own evils, and it’s notable that the antisemite leaders of the time wholeheartedly supported the Zionist project, as do by and large their descendants in the fascist movements of today - because it gets the Jews out of Europe and kills Muslims, they think of it as two birds with one stone. The only long term solution anywhere is for everyone to have equal rights, and it is wrong for Europe and now the US to export their apartheid elsewhere.
Theodor Herzl‘s book Der Judenstaat paints a future where Jews and Arabs live together peacefully. He was kind of an influential Zionist.
Jews moving to Israel bought their land legally, often malaria infested swampland where nobody lived. The locals answered to this peaceful immigration of refugees with violence (Hebron massacre, Arab revolt, etc.).
As you correctly point out, Jews had nowhere else to go. Israel was the place where they could survive and have a future as a people.
Yes, to get rid of them. We shipped them to the middle east and they agreed. Israelis are just self-hating jews who agreed not to mix with white people. Internalised antisemitism
Also they have bought into the promise of being tolerated, sometimes even supported, as long as they participate in the oppression of ethnicities further down in the colonial and racist hierarchy.
Whoever subscribes to “might makes right” ideology is a beast, and that’s what’s behind both Zionism and Western supremacy (which are basically the same thing). Also, they literally aren’t Semitic, they’re just Polish, Ukrainian, German, and other kinds of European who invaded the land and settled there. Semitic people exist, of course, they’re the locals who have been targeted by Europeans for millennia.
Jews, including Ashkenazi, have Levantine DNA. Jews in Europe were not accepted as Polish, German, etc. That was the whole reason Zionism became a thing.
Antisemitism is a term coined specifically to be a more polite word for Jew hatred and Anti-Judaism. Semitic is a linguistic term, not an ethnic one.
They specifically do not, which is why Israel forbids DNA analysis. Their eastern European origin is the result of “pick a fucking religion” ultimatum to entirely separate people.
Israel doesn’t forbid DNA analysis. That’s simply a propaganda lie you fell for. There’s active research, as you can read about in this article for example. https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-860458
There’s ample scientific research you can look up. Even Wikipedia has an overview.
Way to slut shame the Israelites. I guess then everyone should have the divine supremacist right of “Thou shalt steal the land of those you must murder and destroy idols from”. Civilizational constraints are so inconvenient, but fortunately now, everyone can be a genocidal chosenite, and we can end the civilizational principles/rules experiment.
The sons of Shem shared the land with the Caananites (sons of Ham (also Noah’s son), though like Indians who never heard of India, their fellow Levant/Sumerian decendant tribes never heard of Caanan or Ham) and had extremely similar language to Hebrew. They shared the same god that Abraham named his IsraELite children, that Moses would later tell us that (no god before me) Yahweh had demonically impersonated, where Yahweh was one of 70 sons of El.
So Semite, is either just the Israelite descendants of Shem/Abraham, or the entirety of the Levant/Mesopotamia people if language based. The Ashkenazi are none of these, whether or not they went to Hebrew School.
Calling Israelis animals and European settlers is repeating antisemitic tropes.
They’re not calling Israelis, as a group, animals. They’re calling these particular nazi douchebags animals (who happen to be the regime controlling the state of Israel at the moment).
what??? antisemitic tropes are literally the opposite of European settlers / colonialists, it’s framing them as non-white outsiders undermining European societies.
European settlers are who made this trope.
Animals sure, European settlers? No, that’s historical fact.
Eh, it’s dehumanizing but I wouldn’t call it antisemitic.
That’s literally what a good majority of them are. European Jews…
I was referring to the animals bit.
you should definitely dehumanize settlers tho
FFS it’s the genocidal assholes who are animals in their statement. Stop finding problems where there are none.
Being human is immutable, no matter your religion or criminal record. The problem here is that you seem to think that some form of moral high ground gives you the power to deprive someone of their humanity, and frankly I find that disgusting. No one gets to decide who is human and who is not.
No, you’re projecting. I don’t think anything, I am explaining what the other person meant. Take it up with them.
Pardon, I had understood that you agreed with their position.
You’re a poor excuse of a human being if you lack humanity. Stop it already, we’re talking about literal murdering pillaging colonizers. Technically not amoebae or cats, of course, and this is mostly an insult for innocent animals, but these people will be chilling with Satan for eternity.
There weren’t accepted as Europeans in Europe. That’s the whole reason Zionism even started.
No doubt, but murdering and forcing people out of their homes isn’t an appropriate way to deal with being persecuted. A religious document about some people millennia ago doesn’t actually give you any entitlement to someone else’s land. And from the very beginning, Zionism’s goal was to exclude Arabs from the region, based on plain racist hatred. Just because they were victims of antisemitism in Europe does not mean they couldn’t continue to perpetrate their own evils, and it’s notable that the antisemite leaders of the time wholeheartedly supported the Zionist project, as do by and large their descendants in the fascist movements of today - because it gets the Jews out of Europe and kills Muslims, they think of it as two birds with one stone. The only long term solution anywhere is for everyone to have equal rights, and it is wrong for Europe and now the US to export their apartheid elsewhere.
Theodor Herzl‘s book Der Judenstaat paints a future where Jews and Arabs live together peacefully. He was kind of an influential Zionist.
Jews moving to Israel bought their land legally, often malaria infested swampland where nobody lived. The locals answered to this peaceful immigration of refugees with violence (Hebron massacre, Arab revolt, etc.).
As you correctly point out, Jews had nowhere else to go. Israel was the place where they could survive and have a future as a people.
They bought land “legally” from previous colonizers. British law shouldn’t have been valid there in the first place
Land ownership was dealt with under the ottoman system.
Yes, the ottoman EMPIRE. Colonizers
Yes, to get rid of them. We shipped them to the middle east and they agreed. Israelis are just self-hating jews who agreed not to mix with white people. Internalised antisemitism
Also they have bought into the promise of being tolerated, sometimes even supported, as long as they participate in the oppression of ethnicities further down in the colonial and racist hierarchy.
Whoever subscribes to “might makes right” ideology is a beast, and that’s what’s behind both Zionism and Western supremacy (which are basically the same thing). Also, they literally aren’t Semitic, they’re just Polish, Ukrainian, German, and other kinds of European who invaded the land and settled there. Semitic people exist, of course, they’re the locals who have been targeted by Europeans for millennia.
Jews, including Ashkenazi, have Levantine DNA. Jews in Europe were not accepted as Polish, German, etc. That was the whole reason Zionism became a thing.
Antisemitism is a term coined specifically to be a more polite word for Jew hatred and Anti-Judaism. Semitic is a linguistic term, not an ethnic one.
They specifically do not, which is why Israel forbids DNA analysis. Their eastern European origin is the result of “pick a fucking religion” ultimatum to entirely separate people.
Israel doesn’t forbid DNA analysis. That’s simply a propaganda lie you fell for. There’s active research, as you can read about in this article for example. https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-860458
There’s ample scientific research you can look up. Even Wikipedia has an overview.
Way to slut shame the Israelites. I guess then everyone should have the divine supremacist right of “Thou shalt steal the land of those you must murder and destroy idols from”. Civilizational constraints are so inconvenient, but fortunately now, everyone can be a genocidal chosenite, and we can end the civilizational principles/rules experiment.
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The sons of Shem shared the land with the Caananites (sons of Ham (also Noah’s son), though like Indians who never heard of India, their fellow Levant/Sumerian decendant tribes never heard of Caanan or Ham) and had extremely similar language to Hebrew. They shared the same god that Abraham named his IsraELite children, that Moses would later tell us that (no god before me) Yahweh had demonically impersonated, where Yahweh was one of 70 sons of El.
So Semite, is either just the Israelite descendants of Shem/Abraham, or the entirety of the Levant/Mesopotamia people if language based. The Ashkenazi are none of these, whether or not they went to Hebrew School.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/394471209_Genetic_Proximity_of_Modern_Palestinians_and_Ashkenazi_Jews_to_Iron_Age_Levantines_A_Quantitative_Paleogenomic_Analysis
How does that excuse being a genocidal appartheid state. Yes, european were antisemite. We know.