As long as this is about people in Russia and as long as this will lead to an end of the war, I don‘t care. Seems like sanctions pressure them to suggest this.
Maybe we should remind billionaires that economists used to predict we’d work even less than we currently do? Keynes went as far as to predict we’d be working 15 hours a week by 2030.
My school tried to schedule me teaching 9 hours straight (sorry, with a 45 minute break, so a total of 9:45). Get fucked. Teaching is fraking energy intensive and I literally can’t keep going that long. Their reasoning? It’s hard to schedule the classrooms since we refuse to get enough of them, so we’ll just have the faculty and students have insane schedules. Did I mention it was also going to have university students be in class 9 hours per day? NO ONE can learn like that, but it’s really good at saving money.
I’ve been doing four hours teaching at a university in the mornings and six as a barista in the afternoon, and I’m fucking dying from the energy drain. Nine hours of just teaching would have me curling up and bed rotting every day after work.
Good, for you (not sarcasm). I know some people teach at universities mostly to support their research, but if you’re there to educate, it sounds like a horrible environment for all involved.
Thank you. I do like the teaching and student outcomes more than research. That’s not a route to huge success as a professor if you’re measuring on the money, rank, and fame scale, but it’s who I am and seeing my students succeed is my life affirming activity.
When I get out asap it’ll be to another school where I hope I can find a community who values education, not just a grant size measuring contest. It’s somewhere out there.
It also just occurred to me how terrible it would be for research focused instructors as well- even if they actually just wanted to put their name on a bunch of (grad) student work, those students wouldn’t be able to do much meaningful work with that kind of schedule.
Bingo. They give our masters students (officially) four months to choose, execute, and write their thesis. Nothing of real note comes out of the process.
We can do so much better, but it would reduce profits.
Huge hugs all around because we will do better. The students deserve better and so do the teachers.
Some 12h days and even longer I’ve done have been alright. But that’s with +50% and after two hours +100% overtime pay and it wasn’t as a rule but rather an exception for a specific week
That sounds horrifc tbh. For me the 12h+ shifts were just the work day continuing past the normal 8 hours and usually into the evening. Depending on the specific work pretty tiring but honestly not so bad. At least when you know it’s temporary, the weather isn’t too bad and if it doesn’t extend so much that you’ll be lacking sleep.
I have worked 12h days, he can go fuck himself.
As long as this is about people in Russia and as long as this will lead to an end of the war, I don‘t care. Seems like sanctions pressure them to suggest this.
Fair point
Maybe we should remind billionaires that economists used to predict we’d work even less than we currently do? Keynes went as far as to predict we’d be working 15 hours a week by 2030.
The ultra wealthy hate Keynes, it’s why they’ve pushed governments away from Keynesian policies for decades
My school tried to schedule me teaching 9 hours straight (sorry, with a 45 minute break, so a total of 9:45). Get fucked. Teaching is fraking energy intensive and I literally can’t keep going that long. Their reasoning? It’s hard to schedule the classrooms since we refuse to get enough of them, so we’ll just have the faculty and students have insane schedules. Did I mention it was also going to have university students be in class 9 hours per day? NO ONE can learn like that, but it’s really good at saving money.
I’ve been doing four hours teaching at a university in the mornings and six as a barista in the afternoon, and I’m fucking dying from the energy drain. Nine hours of just teaching would have me curling up and bed rotting every day after work.
Huge hugs all around for those making ends meet with their own two hands!
My so-called university is run by people who have never taught a class in their lives. I’m getting out asap.
Good, for you (not sarcasm). I know some people teach at universities mostly to support their research, but if you’re there to educate, it sounds like a horrible environment for all involved.
Thank you. I do like the teaching and student outcomes more than research. That’s not a route to huge success as a professor if you’re measuring on the money, rank, and fame scale, but it’s who I am and seeing my students succeed is my life affirming activity.
When I get out asap it’ll be to another school where I hope I can find a community who values education, not just a grant size measuring contest. It’s somewhere out there.
It also just occurred to me how terrible it would be for research focused instructors as well- even if they actually just wanted to put their name on a bunch of (grad) student work, those students wouldn’t be able to do much meaningful work with that kind of schedule.
Bingo. They give our masters students (officially) four months to choose, execute, and write their thesis. Nothing of real note comes out of the process.
We can do so much better, but it would reduce profits.
Huge hugs all around because we will do better. The students deserve better and so do the teachers.
Gulag, war or work. Its your choice!
Those are excellent choices for the billionaire!
ive seen on indeed there were jobs with 12hr work days, surprise, surprise which demographic it targets.
Some 12h days and even longer I’ve done have been alright. But that’s with +50% and after two hours +100% overtime pay and it wasn’t as a rule but rather an exception for a specific week
I worked 12h alternating day/night shifts on an irregular schedule for 4.5 years…
I don’t recommend it
That sounds horrifc tbh. For me the 12h+ shifts were just the work day continuing past the normal 8 hours and usually into the evening. Depending on the specific work pretty tiring but honestly not so bad. At least when you know it’s temporary, the weather isn’t too bad and if it doesn’t extend so much that you’ll be lacking sleep.
Oh yeah, it was shit.
I manned an internal IT helpdesk with 24/7 coverage for a global company.
This included holidays as well.
I worked three new years eves, terrible…