• Cherry@piefed.social
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    Lots on here saying what can govt do? It’s not the govs fault. Indirectly is is. Being soft of foreign actors and interference over the years has led to this. Allowing the rise of giant monopolies who own govs has led to this.

    They compromised themselves year after year and did ignore people. And now people are not allowed to stand up? People have been conditioned to passive over the last 30/40 years, we have but look at where it’s got us.

    Ireland has many a multinational located there due to tax laws. The gov should be turning the heat on them to put pressure up to the turds starting wars.

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    Norwegian here and I really don’t understand the protesting truckers. Like the government has cut all taxes on fuel to combat the increasing prices. There’s not much more to do. What the heck do you want out of this? That we send a small vessel with armed teenagers to open the straight?

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      There’s not much more to do.

      Wrong. They can take from their wealthiest citizens to provide for those who do not have enough.

      The solution is there, we just choose not to do it.

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      Norwegian here too, it’s because it’s a tiny protest. Like, it was a 100 people; it’s just because they drove their trucks slowly 🤷

      fucking stupid that this protest got more coverage than any other normal protest…

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      If they are demanding their government not continue the same neoliberal drivel that got everyone here, then that’d be good. What to do in the immediate present, idk steal an oil tanker from Russia? Not many other options.

      Start transitions to fully green energy. But that’s not immediate.

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      Not just that, they’re protesting against high fuel prices by deliberately burning more of it. Stage a protest with actual helpful goals, like getting others to use less this reducing prices due to decreased demand.

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      IMO a foreign agitation/influence campaign. These protests would never take place without weaponized social media and the state level motivation and funding behind it. Norway could be seen as competition, stand in the way of making EU fossil - dependent on other gas suppliers.

      Also see: farmer protests in the wake of '22, now nonexistent, although the situation is worse

      Generally I don’t think people realized the actual implications of information warfare after Cambridge analytica

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    Corporations have no loyalty except to their own interests and the shareholders.

    They don’t care who gets the oil. If the oil is produced by the US, Saudi Arabia, or Norway, none of those countries get any special access to oil produced by companies based there. The oil gets sold at global market price based on market forces, so if your oil can be purchased at a higher price by being exported, it’s going away. Your local prices go up for fuels or LNG even if you produce a ton of it yourself.

    Because that’s the market we’ve established. Corpos don’t care, they’re making billions.

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    Has the Irish government done something specifically to make the fuel-price increases worse? It’s not clear to me from the article what exactly they want.

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      Out of a litre (currently €2.20) about €1.20 is tax. They want to see a reduction in this

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    When it’s not your fault, yet you do what USA was supposed to do.

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    I’m suspecting these are funded by America, we should strive instead to green up faster, so we don’t get as much of this energy price inflation bullshit.

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    What is Ireland supposed to do? Why protest your own government who has nothing to do with the rising prices?

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    Stop holding your noses, and listen to them, otherwise they’ll ally themselves with those that do listen: the fascists. They are hurting economically, they need economic solutions.

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      What I want for governments is to enormously subsidise converting from petrol and diesel to bikes and electric cars! And to speed up the process of expanding energy and electricity nets.

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        For sure! But it has to be done in a way that is lazer focused on making sure no worker is left behind. The Green New Deal (not the Von Der Leyen simulacrum, the Bernie Sanders original) is trying to articulate that idea. The Polanski Greens in the UK and the Lewis NDP in Canada are all about offering this democratic ecosocialist vision forward. Without this leg of the equation, fake green capitalism is just a gift to the far right.

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        The one lesson we should have learned since 2008 is that politics cannot be ignored. This kind of supposed technocratic neoliberalism has failed.