Reason number 5,386 to delete your Reddit account and encourage your friends & loved ones to do the same.
OP’s headline does not match the article linked in any way. I don’t know if the site changed the article or what, but the Grand Jury has not ordered Reddit to turn over any data.
a subpoena issued by federal prosecutors to the management of Reddit, representatives of the site have been ordered to appear before a grand jury in Washington D.C., with an April 14 deadline set in an attempt to compel Reddit to volunteer personal data and the identity of a user who had the temerity to lightly criticize Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on the platform.
Essentially, they have ordered Reddit to send representatives to be badgered into volunteering the user’s information.
The headline is wrong. No decision has been made yet.
there goes “their freedom of speech”, hypocrites
I really wonder what is preventing people using reddit from using Lemmy, Lemmy is just really good and I really like it, the only problem would be financial issues with big instances that have to store historical data so they can serve it, using more and more space, si that is why is better for everyone to use small instances instead of big ones ;3
Lemmy is relatively dead and horribly split-brained.
Basically, federations should have been a per topic thing, not entire instances.
I remember when reddit first got popular and the demise of Digg
I feel like we’re watching the demise or reddit now
The place is nothing but bots, they allow loser power tripping mods to ban you willy nilly with basically no appeal process. And now they’re gonna give you up to the govt
I’m sure shareholders are super stoked right now
Mods on Lemmy are at least as ban happy than those on Reddit. Appeals? They don’t exist at all. At least you can easily make a new account on different instance on Lemmy. Reddit has strong enforcement of also banning all accounts they can link to yours with cookie and IP.
Lemmy admins are likely to comply with local law enforcement as well, if they have to. So far it’s just untested because of irrelevance.
Everyone is still using it. It sucks since i just want everyone to come on piefed/lemmy. I really have no idea what reddit has to do to make people switch. Its kinda like seeing a toxic relationship.
Based on the number of people still using the cesspit that Twitter turned into, Reddit has to sink a hell of a lot lower to get people to stop using it.
Now? It died in 2023 or whenever the API debacle happened. Even before that it was pretty botty.
I finally left just a couple weeks ago. Seeing and hearing about entire accounts being banned after simple peaceful criticism of political leaders showed me that they use poorly programmed algorithms to issue bans and also confirm them on appeals without any reasonable human elements. It also seemed like some accounts would get perma-banned by simply complaining about this process.
I got banned for suggesting someone put a hole in the Charlie Kirk statue
Does Reddit even know who they are? Sure they could hand over my IP address but even without a VPN my IP says I’m hundreds of miles away from my real location so that wouldn’t help them.
When looking at an IP for an investigation, they don’t use GeoIP. They use “ask the ISP who had this IP at this time, oh, thanks for the full name, address, bank info, phone number”.
Well my ISP won’t hand over that info as it would be a violation of GDPR not that this administration will have thought that one through.
You sure about that? They have a legal obligation to keep this trace, and it sounds like it would easily qualify as a legitimate interest. We’re not talking about some third party logging a visitor’s IP, but an ISP, that have a requirement to keep this information.
The GDPR isn’t making all personal identification data inaccessible, they restrict how they can be stored and accessed. If there’s a legal requirement and/or a legitimate interest, they can be stored, and if the data exists and is requested by law enforcement, it’s likely that higher agreements will hold.
They will certainly hand it over if a there is a warrant.
(I wonder how far you could daisy chain wifi routers and repeaters. At least make them work for it.)
This is an extremely naive take
It will. I can assure you the government have far more resources at their disposal than you do.
A’right, this is disgusting, but it’s really not Reddit’s fault if a Grand Jury requests evidence.
spoiler
___Especially because the Grand Jury hasn’t even requested anything yet, I guess?
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Today is a good day to use Lemmy.
They can’t fucking WAIT until this ID verification goes through. Literally frothing at the mouth for it.
I don’t get it. Once ID checks are here, do they think people will keep expressing these kinds of opinions publicly? Oh course not, they’re just going to keep going further underground online or find offline ways, do they really think we’ll just keep posting incriminating stuff with our real name attached?
do they think people will keep expressing these kinds of opinions publicly? Oh course not
People are already pushing all kind of extreme and suspicious opinions on multiple websites under their “official” name that can be found on their ID. This won’t change. And the risk isn’t people stopping saying thing at one point; it’s the list of “allowed” topics changing over time, then going back to older content.
The oppression is the goal. They want you to tell 10 people locally, not 10 million worldwide.
Suppression of anything critical of Trump and the other snowflakes is the goal. Oppression is their favorite tool, but they’ll settle for intimidation which still ends up being effective even when our institutions uphold the Constitution.
Yeah but the 10 locals are the ones that might actually end up doing something instead of shouting into the digital void.
Fuck ICE
why don’t you take a marker and a white shirt, write that on that shirt, and actually wear it outside, instead of doing this.
Why don’t you go criticize someone in real life too.
ohh deflection! nice one, but I already made the shirt! Why don’t you do something with your life in real life?
I’ve managed to do two things
Once again, just in case no one heard, FUCK ICE
nice I like this… a lot
I can bearly say anthing on this platform. must be my home instance. You are so lucky you can cuss. Daddy won’t let me
I’ll say it for you then.
#FUCK ICE ✊
Good god the title is very misleading. The grand jury hearing isn’t until April 14. It’s still chilling that the administration will go to these lengths to apparently silence criticism, but I’m not convinced there is more to this story. Although the reddit user in question is enlisting a civil liberties group to represent him, I’m thinking he/she may not be a terrorist mastermind who is a danger to the American people.
This measured response feels much healthier than my/our kneejerk reactions. Any prosecutor is going to seek information that would help their case, and they expect the Court to simply say No when it isn’t compatible with the law. It sucks that this Trump admin and retributive DOJ have such an anti-American track record that our initial instinct is that every move is another attempt to suppress criticism (which it likely would be if they had any scintilla of competence to go with their thirst for fascism).
Big daddy capo_Corpo government is handing out the span_kings as the beatings will continue until the moral improves. It is about fear! This is not the first time that yan_kkk_eee land has acted this way.
Actual title:
A Secret Grand Jury Is Seeking the Identity of a Reddit User Who Criticized ICE
It’s completely unclear what illegal thing the user is supposed to have done, other than dislike ICE.
So, the rule is very old already, actually: You can’t criticize ICE on Reddit if you’re an American citizen, because of this. And you can’t criticize ICE, Israel, Trump and etc. on Reddit even if you’re are not the USA citizen - because of bans on platform.
People criticize Trump, ICE, Israel on Reddit all day every day. There are many subreddits dedicated to these topics.
ah pedonald trying to scare people. fuck him with a retractable baton.
That might bring him pleasure.
Dip him in acid.
Heh, which kind?
As a chemist, I recommend Hydrofloric acid
A friend of a friend died from spilling a small amount of HF onto himself.
concentrated HF is highly toxic and caustic, while diluted in water isnt that poisonous.
That calcium-loving one that eats your bones if you touch it?
I think you’re referring to hydrofluoric acid
I kinda wanna see the one that causes sensory blending and hallucinations.
And just fuck with him for…well how ever many days a dose like that would take to wear off.
Nah, give him shrooms and let the mushroom gods show him the weight of his own soul as it drags him beneath the rising tides of the abyss…
All of them
man i fuckin hate the us government. Do y’all really say shit like “pedonald” unironically though
do y’all say that shit and be like “heh yeah i got his ass”? do y’all say shit like “The Orange Menace” and think it’s the fuckin bomb dot com?
you old ass freaky mfs got that truth social energy going on. Y’all say some corn ball facebook auntie garbage and act like it’s tuff with two F’s
Can y’all act like normal human beings instead of this weird ass insulated secluded sector of the radicalized internet for a sec big dog like damn
slaughter conservatives and behead authority figures, stop this busted ass middle school style name calling though holy fuck
Come on down from wherever you are from and get the ball rolling for us, id welcome you
Who here is acting “tuff”? It seems more like it’s you than anyone else.
