Dissolve the US and create some EU like entity.

Maybe wait a few decades. Maybe Trump really has fucked It forever

We had trust?

Sorry for the wall of text, but I’ve been thinking a lot about what we would have to do to redeem America in the eyes of its citizens, the world, and history. In order to do that, MAGA must be fully crushed, and purged from our government and society. Nothing less is acceptable.

First of all, MAGA must be dealt with as the ongoing National Security Threat that it genuinely is. They are responsible for a violent Insurrection, and the theft of hundreds of classified documents, as well as breath-taking corruption, that they don’t even bother to hide. They are a treasonous organization that must be treated like the Nazis or the KKK, and essentially prohibited from existing. Their leaders should be arrested and imprisoned for their crimes.

In addition, the election fraud from the 2024 election must be exposed, and the Trump administration declared invalid. That will roll back ALL EOs, legislation, appointments, SCOTUS decisions, etc. It will be like the second Trump administration didn’t exist.

And that includes his Pardons, which are all criminal cover ups. ALL Trump pardons are invalid, and those criminals have to return to serve out their sentences. Anyone who doesn’t voluntarily surrender, will be charged with escape, and get another decade attached to their sentence with no time off for good behavior or parole. Every pardon will be investigated, and anyone found to have paid a bribe of any kind, will get additional charges, as well as anyone who facilitated the payments, such as family members, accountants, lawyers, politicians, etc.

Anyone involved in the January 6 insurrection will be declared prohibited from holding public office, per the 14th Amendment, Section 3. Anyone who amplified the Big Lie that the 2020 election was stolen, the primary motivation of the Insurrection, is complicit, and is prohibited from public office. If you EVER said that Trump won the 2020 election, and/or the Democrats stole it, then you were an active participant in the Insurrection, and you can’t hold office. If you are in a debate, and you are asked who won the 2020 election, and you say Trump, you are instantly disqualified. If you were instrumental in planning or organizing the Insurrection, then it’s life in prison.

That includes every single person who spoke at the rally just before the Insurrection. Remember that video of them all in the backstage tent before the rally? Every single one of those people should serve life prison sentences. They were laughing and partying, as they honestly thought they were launching a violent attack that would result in the deaths of numerous politicians, including the VP, and the end of our democratic government, so they could install Trump as dictator for life. The very top leaders should be publicly executed.

With all those MAGAs instantly out of office due to 14A, and MAGAs not allowed to ever hold office, it will take a while for whatever new conservative party organizes (the Republicans were just the larval stage of MAGA, so they’re dead, too), and starts to run candidates that qualify under 14A/S3, and anti-MAGA laws. That gives the Dems the opportunity to pass all sorts of legislation to get America on a decent moral path into the future. Part of it will be laws that codify certain rights that conservatives have tried to suppress, like reproductive rights, immigrant rights, workers rights, etc.

And we have to pass strong anti-corruption laws, and that starts by changing the way we treat wealth in this country. Sociopathic Oligarchs have untreated OCD Hoarding syndrome, which manifests as financial hoarding, and it is become bad enough that it is having serious detrimemtal impacts on the majority of the citizens of the WORLD. We can’t do anything about it in other countries, but we can certainly change things on America.

If someone was hoarding cats, or rusty old appliances, etc, to the point that it was affecting the lifestyles and property values of their neighbors, the authorities would step in and end it. We need to do that with financial hoarders. We need to confiscate their hoards, and redistribute it. Just like all those cats need to find nice families, we can find better uses for that Sociopathic Oligarch money.

The wealthy think we serve them, and we have to make them understand that they keep their wealth at the pleasure of the people, and the minute that wealth is not serving the people, it will be entirely confiscated, and the Sociopathic Oligarch will be imprisoned. Further, their family will be prevented from accessing public assistance, scholarships, etc. They will be officially destitute.

Sociopathic Oligarchs who have already egregiously violated the public trust (Trump, of course, Musk, Theil, Ellison, Bezos, Zuckerfuck, etc.) will have their entire hoards fully confiscated immediately, and their fortunes used to rebuild America, and provide the seed funding for social programs like free healthcare, daycare, college/trade school, UBI, etc.

Wealth will be HEAVILY taxed, not work. Workers under a certain income will pay no income tax, that will be covered by the wealthy and corporations. Anyone found to hiding wealth in offshore/ foreign banks, will have their entire hoard confiscated, and they will be imprisoned.

We will no longer fund ANYTHING for capitalists. They can pay for what they want. No more stadiums, no more tax breaks, nothing but heavy taxes on your profits, AND your personal revenue. We pay for services for the people FIRST, and whatever is leftover can be allocated to the military and such, but not one penny will ever go to billionaires or they corporations.

It is also imperative that we pass strong Campaign Finance Reform, which is the single issue from which ALL other issues flow. We must prohibit money in campaigns, and tightly regulate them regarding length, and campaign language. The kind of lies and rhetoric we heard from Trump will result in immediate disqualification from the campaign.

And to prevent this all from happening again 50 years in the future, the educational curriculum will be created and administered by the Federal government. 2+2=4, CAT spells cat in every state, we don’t need 50 different curriculums. That just allows Red states to teach treasonous, racist propaganda. The new curriculum will have a strong emphasis on Critical Thinking Skills, including how to recognize and reject propaganda. It will also teach proper history, including Slavery and the Native American Genocide, with an emphasis on acknowledging those atrocities so that they can’t happen again.

All of this can be done without running afoul of our laws or the Constitution, it just takes the political courage and will to do it. The American people want it, we just have to force our political representatives to do what they are told, and to do that, we have to make them fear us. If you have Dem in the House or Senate who is a cowardly weenie, vote them out in the primary, in favor of an angry reformer. Let’s send a bunch of pissed off Democrats to DC to kick ass in BOTH parties.

This whole situation has moved countries away from dependency. There is no reason to ever go back to how things used to be, regardless of the level of trust.

It won’t happen in my lifetime because your guardrails failed at all levels, including voters. A vile president is supported by hypocrite judges, confirmed by a spineless legislature, voted in by amoral voters. 20 years ago Republicans were the “family values” party. There were issues with that, but it was a given they wouldn’t threaten allies, meme themselves as Christ, celebrate war crimes, promote gambling, be pedophiles, be brazenly corrupt, etc. Then they, and their voters, shed their morals like snakes molting. Even if somehow they started acting like right and wrong were real concepts again, I won’t trust them to not shed that again when it’s convenient.

The US isn’t going to get that trust back that it had before.

At this point, its impossible.

Something every single person on Earth, especially Americans, needs to learn and make peace with this simple fact:

The American empire has fallen

Pax-Americana is permanently over

The literal best case scenario for the USA now is a postwar Germany situation. No longer a superpower, but a steady somewhat socialist state that mostly keeps to itself.

The one X factor that may give America an edge to recovery is the same X factor that enabled its success to begin with:

America is large and America is relatively geographically isolated from all other major powers

The next President would need to pass a massive bill dedicated to anti- corruption laws with real criminal consequences. This includes the entire house. No more shareholders. No more felons in politics.

Then two term limits for the Congress and Senate.

Then a bill that limits executive orders, and elimination of presidential pardons.

This would change the entire way the US government has worked in 250 years.

As a non american I can say the televised event is unecessary.

Have two mandate periods (8 years) of normal relations under the Democrat. Then peacefully switched presidency to another president, but this time Republican, who also maintains normal relations for two mandates. So I guess 16 years of normal relations under both Democrats and Republicans? I know, too much to ask because that will never happen. Hasn’t been the case for many decades.

As an outsider i feel the only viable way for america to unfuck itself is to throw the current constitution into the sea and start over from scratch, presumably resulting in multiple new countries that maybe form something like the EU (or as another person said, outright join the EU).

It’s the same situation as the USSR ended in, the concept of “the USA” is falling apart at the seams and if you try to mend it back together you’ll just get a heap of mismatched fabric.

When France and Germany did not follow the US under G. W. Bush into Iraq in 2003, the language used did not differ significantly from the language about not following the US into the Straight of Hormuz.

Obama had SOOO MUCH to make up for and wasn’t able to rehabilitate the image of the US… and then everything got EVEN WORSE!

You’ve been like this AT LEAST since Regan. Trump is not the cause, he is a SYMPTOM of a sickness that has festered for AT LEAST 45 years, not only in your politics but in american society.

I imagine it’ll take about the same amount of time to change the american people back into a nation that can be respected instead of feared and loathed.

Trump is nothing, he’s unimportant in the grand scheme of things. The real enemy is the mindset of a majority (republican or democrat) of americans.

Fix the American government, education system, and legal system.

Thanklessly.

It won’t be fixed in one term, probably not two, maybe see it start to work a decade after they leave office.

It’s going to take years to earn back trust, but no matter what happens, America will never have the power it used to have.

The fact you guys are still treating Trump as a “one off” is wild.

To the rest of the world that’s the image of Americans, for decades now.