LOL. Fuck that. I’m not flying.
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Well, once the mistakes start to pile up I will probably get a lot less judgement from others about my apprehension of flying.
Oh helllll to the nawh nawh nawh
Yet another reason not to go to the USA.
We just need one rich asshole in a private jet to crash due to ATC failure for them to care.
Ah, the blameless AI got people killed. Sue the company, then whittle it down because no raindrop programmer was responsible for the flood that killed hundreds, then wait for people to give up in appeals while the lawyers get rich.
I tried to use AI to install a reverse osmosis water system yesterday, I asked it to look at manual for hose colors to match them, I figured it would save me a few mins.
After an hour of it not working and trying all sorts of nonsense I looked in manual to have it show me it had given me all the wrong information to a simple task.
I can’t wait to have people’s lives reliant on this technology.
AI is a pretty big catch-all term. If they mean specially designed and trained deep learning neural nets, maaaaybe it’ll be okay. If they mean typical LLMs we’re straight up fucked.
Exactly. With a broad enough term those computerized screens showing the position of all the planes is “AI”.
I just saw an ad for using ChatGPT to “come up with new recipes and baking ideas”
Yeah I’m sure having a bunch of people decide to eat whatever a hallucinating AI comes up with isn’t going to be dangerous at all…
I’ll look it up and try to find it. But I’m pretty sure there’s a YouTube video where they actually did ask Chat GPT to come up with new recipes and baking ideas and then they tried to make them to the results you would expect.
Edit: ok, so it looks like there are a whole lot of YouTubers making AI recipes to the expected results. So Google away.
So when, and i do mean when, this results in a crash, who will be held responsible?
Biden
Hillary with her butterymales?
Well we have already had deaths due to the current crunch (and not paying them) of us air traffic controllers.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/laguardia-collision-air-traffic-control-ntsb-9.7140479
And who was blamed for those? Oh yeah the traffic controllers! So when grok starts seeing how many 737s can fit in the same physical space, it will be the controllers fault. As you can imagine this will make those controllers want to quit, meaning more pressure to use shit like AI tools.
Liberals.
If it’s the ATC then it’s their fault, if it’s AI then it’s no one’s.
Fortunately the world is going to run out of aviation fluid next week so we won’t have to find out.
I really have zero reason to fly now. The risk is way to high under this fascist administration.
The next 9/11 will be AI powered. A.I. Qaeda is a truly terrifying prospect.
when you have the pilot and microslop copilot:
for entertainment purposes only
Fuck AI for this, but there’s a lot of room in ATC for further automation. To be perfectly honest, if the planes can more or less land themselves, and they’re all fly-by-wire, I could see nearly automating the whole thing. Phase it in over a 10-year plan… computers HAVE to be able to be better at this than one unpaid, overworked, under-rested controller.
I’m all for automation if it works and if it improves safety but as far as I know they haven’t proven that yet. I’d like to see an AI air traffic controller running in a simulation for many many years of simulation time first before we would even begin to talk about implementing it in real hardware.
Could test it out at small low-volume/non commercial airports first & go from there
I’d start with computer Sims before putting people’s lives on the line, but then from your suggestion
And when someone dies, and they will, we decide to roll it out everywhere? As long as there’s profit in it!
The question is whether the AI or the human is more prone to mistakes. It’s hard to do that without real world tests, unfortunately.
Like self driving cars. Of course they’re going to be involved in crashes where people die, but humans are such terrible drivers that the computers are better (except for Tesla which just has mislabeled lane assist)
AI is fine for this… assuming we’re talking about a specifically trained machine learning model that is actually made to handle ATC and not just shoehorning an LLM into a job it was never intended to do.
Honestly, I’d put it at too high a risk for weighted models. We have ton’s of pathfinding navigation code out there that could solve this outright on a raspberry pi :) not that i’d reccomend the pi…
Counterpoint: just look at the Air Canada crash that recently happened where a controller let a fire truck cross in the path of a landing aircraft.
Planes may have all this technology but that only involves what’s happening in the air, not on the ground.
Now maybe all ground crew could have vehicles equipped with transponders and tracked as well, but there are also incidents of people randomly ending up on the runways / taxiways, or animals, or non airport vehicles.
With the amount of AI powered cameras being put up around cities around the world… Yea they could use tech like that to monitor runways too
We don’t have enough air traffic controllers.
We use AI to reduce their workload. <---- We are here
We don’t need as many air traffic controllers.
We sack more air traffic controllers.
We don’t have enough air traffic controllers.
So even flying over America without landing there is going to become dangerous.
Best choose flights with Polar routes, going the other way around or which fly over South America instead.
If they just limited our freedom to travel, people would get suspicious.
