• Quadhammer@lemmy.world
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    I will never vote right but some of the leftists I’ve met irl are the most insufferable cunts you can imagine. Definate difference in people who don’t like the status quo and the other who want to impose their “perfect economy system” on everyone with no regard of how that would actually work or look. Like lefty magas

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    If you’re angry with the left and vote right, you ain’t left to begin with.

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      I’m tired of Americans calling left of far right to be left. Left of far right is still right you know.

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        It’s relative. This is how it works. It’s also how the SPD in Germany is “left” and how Labour, from any country with a party so named, is “left.”

        Comments Iike yours have never served any purpose other than to make the speak feel self superior. They actually serve as a detriment to further discourse on the topic.

      • PoastRotato@lemmy.world
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        We know. Everyone knows. It’s just how we refer to the Democratic Party here. At this point, I think the only people who don’t know the difference are the ones wouldn’t care to make the distinction in the first place. Getting upset over it makes about as much sense as getting upset at British people for calling a sweater a jumper.

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        Literally doesn’t matter when we have 2 parties and one of them is to the left of the other

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          23 hours ago

          You’d be talking about the right wing party in my case (Australia - the Liberals are the conservative choice)

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            Yeah. And in America it’s the opposite. But our favorite Lemmyleft will see them, and talk about them, as the same. To exciting effect. (And they have reasons, you see)

            And so we have this conversation again. And round and round it goes.

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    Nobody ever went right because they were “betrayed” by the left. That’s like going gay because of a bad breakup. Most people who legitimately feel betrayed by the left go further left.

    What the right does cultivate is false grievance against the left. And this “walkaway” narrative is fake news.

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      That sadly only works for the limited number of people with a working brain.

      The amount of idiots that vote far-right to get the left policies the left never in power did thus not deliver is insane. Those people will also scream in your face about fake news or even get aggressive if you read straight from their populist party’s programs, because the brain rot they consume says otherwise.

  • Sarah Valentine (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The crucial thing to remember about leopards is that when they decide to eat your face, it’s not a betrayal. It’s a leopard, it doesn’t grasp the concept of betrayal. You have a face, and it eats faces. It is simply that time of day, and you picked a bad place to be.

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    The right revolt all the time, maga, the libertarian movement, and the tea party all sent the politicians falling over eachother to try to be what they thought the base wanted.

    Republicans fear their voters, democrats despise their voters.

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      It’s more like the actual leftists don’t really vote, so the democrats don’t cater to them. The corporate wing of the party actively tries to push them out.
      If the leftists got organized and started voting out dems in the primary these people would change their tune.

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      Republicans fear their voters

      Not anymore. After the tea party shenanigans, Republicans realized it was easier to use mass media to program people on what to hate, and keep them distracted.

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        A bunch of republicans lost primaries and generals because the party let insurgents meaningfully challenge them and didn’t burn down the house the way the dems react to DSA obtaining power.

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        Probably. But I attribute it to there being less ideological dissonance between the republicans donors and voters and democrats donors and voters.

        Republicans can tell their base they’re going to hurt everybody to make the rich richer and they’ll accept it if they blame oppressed people and foreigners. Democrats have to lie to their base and come up with excuses for why they are hurting everyone to make the rich richer.