• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      No, that’s what had made me a liberal before lol.

      It’s very funny to blame “communist propaganda” when all my schooling was from a capitalist perspective. I never even knew what communism was until I searched for alternatives because of being dissatisfied with the existing system.

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        If you think communism is a solution to your problems, you’re dead wrong. You’ve been told things you wanted to hear, not the truth how communist state looks like in real life.

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          “Been told” lol. I’m reminded of back in high school when I told my parents I thought gay people should have rights and they responded “who’s putting these crazy ideas into your head?” It is, in fact, possible for me to come to conclusions on my own.

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            I remember my father telling me how he miraculously managed to get permit to leave the country in the 80s to work in capitalist Europe. He returned with insane fortune of like, $500, which he later spent on paying off mortgage when system fell apart in the 90s.

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              It’s tragic that your family had to spend that money on a mortgage because the state that provided free (or heavily subsidized) housing collapsed. Fucking capitalism, amirite?

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                state that provided free (or heavily subsidized) housing

                You weren’t getting any housing in that system. You could enlist in a queue and wait for 20-30 years to get piss poor commie block apartment. My father was one of very few people who were just well enough for building a house. He was struggling with money, rationing of materials, corruption and poor quality of work, while our family of four lived in 20m2 apartment like animals in stables.

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                  Oh no, the free housing isn’t fast enough or big enough, oh no, it looks so drab oh no

                  What did capitalism do for you? How long do you have to wait now to spend 3% of your income on housing instead of 30%+?

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              He returned with insane fortune of like, $500

              So, communist countries are affordable and $500 can buy you a lot of things?

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                  Poor as in “free healthcare, free education to the highest level, guaranteed job, heavily subsidized foodstuffs, cheap subsidized high quality public transit, guaranteed housing at 3-5% of the monthly income, 0% inflation over a span of 40 years, but it’s difficult getting ahold of a car”?

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                    free healthcare

                    Dogshit healthcare being decades behind that in the west/

                    free education to the highest level

                    Education was dogshit lacking the basic necessities, in building falling apart.

                    guaranteed job

                    Most jobs were completely unnecessary. They provided nothing of value.

                    heavily subsidized foodstuffs

                    Rationed. Not subsidized. You couldn’t just go and buy a fucking bread, or a bar of chocolate, or sugar, or flour, or a washing machine, or TV or a car. Your money was almost worthless. Food stamps were worth more than the money you paid for the food. If you manage to be super lucky and get permit to buy a new car, you could resell it immediately for 2x or even 3x of nominal price. and it wasn’t a good car, it was this piece of shit.

                    It’s actually funny that this ‘wonderful’ system couldn’t design their own car, and had to resort into buying a design license for utterly outdated modified fiat 500 from filthy capitalist Italy.

                    0% inflation over a span of 40 years

                    FUCKING LIES. Check the black market dollar value to see the actual scale of inflation that was happening.

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                Transformation just uncovered all the lies and sins of previous communist system. Once state run enterprises were allowed to file banktruptcy 30% of them failed immediately. Country was also hit by hyperinflation like a hammer because previous system was printing money like crazy and “fixing” it by price controls and food rationing.