Afaik the firmware is self developed and closed source, so not free. as in freedom of code and free as in beer.
The software slicer is based on prusa slicer which is based on slic3r which uses the agplv3 which dictates that all works derived from the original code needs to be published as code under the same license. They do that. But the trick is that they add closed source modules that are essential for the whole system to work and therefore control their devices and ecosystem via restrictive licenses or plain unavailability of sources.
Regarding creality : the last time I used a creality printer it used marlin as firmware and it was trivial to compile and flash and modify.
But in general you don’t need to make your product easy to jailbreak under most ooensource licenses, you need to publish the code. Those are two different things.
Seems like the owner would be suing them if that was the case.
Honestly it all sounds like manufactured drama to me.
If you don’t like Bambu product limits. Just use a different brand. There are many other companies. No one is forcing people to use bambu products.
It would be like me complaining a company doesn’t sell the shoes I want. And then trying to sue them because of that and start drama in shoe comunities. Saying they are in the wrong for not running their company and offering services or products I want.
Not using it is a way of distancing yourself. I agree. But the bigger issue to me Is that they are making money from the work of others without giving back. It’s an ethical question for me and I want to change that behaviour not just in regards to me as a customer but as a whole for the industry to foster the advancement of the technology itself.
Okay but we are talking about Bambu using a specific open source code for creating their software and firmware.
Have they violated the use of that specific open source code in some way ?
Their software is free to use.
Creality firmware is based on open source but they make it hard to jail break their printers too.
Why aren’t you going on tirade about creality?
Afaik the firmware is self developed and closed source, so not free. as in freedom of code and free as in beer.
The software slicer is based on prusa slicer which is based on slic3r which uses the agplv3 which dictates that all works derived from the original code needs to be published as code under the same license. They do that. But the trick is that they add closed source modules that are essential for the whole system to work and therefore control their devices and ecosystem via restrictive licenses or plain unavailability of sources.
Regarding creality : the last time I used a creality printer it used marlin as firmware and it was trivial to compile and flash and modify.
But in general you don’t need to make your product easy to jailbreak under most ooensource licenses, you need to publish the code. Those are two different things.
I just got this Info from a Youtube channel yesterday, so take it with a grain of salt, but they said that the license indeed includes that clause.
Seems like the owner would be suing them if that was the case.
Honestly it all sounds like manufactured drama to me.
If you don’t like Bambu product limits. Just use a different brand. There are many other companies. No one is forcing people to use bambu products.
It would be like me complaining a company doesn’t sell the shoes I want. And then trying to sue them because of that and start drama in shoe comunities. Saying they are in the wrong for not running their company and offering services or products I want.
Not using it is a way of distancing yourself. I agree. But the bigger issue to me Is that they are making money from the work of others without giving back. It’s an ethical question for me and I want to change that behaviour not just in regards to me as a customer but as a whole for the industry to foster the advancement of the technology itself.
Suing is expensive, but it’s all speculation from my side, so I don’t want to lean heavily into the argument.
I agree that it got some vibes to it that wants me to agree with you.
Did they recently implement a “feature” that doesnt allow the printing of guns or something?