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“$800m”… If nobody wants them, they’re not worth anything.
Certainly they mean MSRP.
If those 5 trucks had feelings they would be hurt
“nobody wants” or 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
Why not both nobody wants them and 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
For all we know lots of people want them but can’t afford them.
Paints two completely different scenarios from the same objective base observation that there are X amount of unsold Cybertrucks.
Why is that all you know and why are you lumping us in with you?
They’ve got ~60% more inventory than sales (6k sold).
For comparison Rivian has 400% more sales than inventory. (14k sold).
This should be plenty of data to conclude how popular the Cybertruck actually is.
Are you comparing the same time frames? Because Rivian’s sales are down 36% for Q1 2025.
I guess no one wants them either, or would a headline about Rivian invoke some other reason?
That’s my point.
Can someone explain how the demographic of people who loved to park their gas guzzlers to purposefully block tesla charging stations are now Musk fanboys all of a sudden?
There is only one single core belief in fascism. There must be an “in” group that the state protects, and an “out” group that the state oppresses. There are zero other rules. This means that the definition of the in group is completely arbitrary and fluid based on what helps the strongman at the top. If you ever question the definition of the in group, you are automatically part of the out group.
Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
They’re not worthless, im sure you can use them for scrap metal
Cybertrucks are just sitting around, waiting for someone to officially label them the DeLorean of the 21st century.
Hey! You take that back! DeLoreans were always cool cars. Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Nobody despised the DeLorean, or it’s owner. They just ran out of money, and he tried a desperate Hail Mary play, that didn’t work.
Their demise was absolutely due to lack of popularity. In December '81 they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000. I’d argue that they failed for the same reason Fiero did – they looked like a sports car but were not. Top speed was 110mph. 0-60 time was 10.5 seconds. It had a V-6 that put out 130hp in a car with a curb wt of 2700 lbs. 0-60 time was measured at 10.5 seconds. To put that in perspective, about the same as a 99 Ford F-350 Super Duty Crew Cab 4x4 Dually or 73 LTD Brougham. There are virtually no modern cars that run 0-60 that slow. A 2024 5.3l Suburban has a time of 7.0
In addition, they had numerous quality control problems. This in a car that retailed for $25k or the rough equivalent of $86,000 in today’s dollars. While it’s probably true that nobody despised the car, it was not a good car. They were definitely cool sitting in a parking lot but getting spanked by a 1980 Chevy Citation (0-60 10.3) is not a good look
Holy moly those specs are remarkably similar to my 1st generation Prius.
The cybertruck is on a different scale of unpopularity.
Nobody threw Molotov cocktails at Delorians.
Not with that spelling.
I’m not saying you are wrong in anything you state, and you make good points.
And yes you are probably right that the shortcomings compared to what was promised is the main reason sales didn’t go as expected.
But I think you don’t see it the same way as barneypiccolo you responded to.
Wasn’t the DeLorean design pretty iconic from the beginning? The fact that there are still more than 2/3rds of the cars built on the road today 44 years later does speak volumes to its favor regarding popularity IMO. Those were not cars that were bought, found insufficient and then scrapped. But instead have been maintained despite DeLorean hasn’t been around to supply spare parts.
Also the fact that the car had such a central role in the Movie Back to the Future, because it was simply such a cool car despite it’s flaws, what other car could they have used for similar effect?
Imagine trying to do that with the Cybertruck! The Cinema would most like burst out in laughter from claiming doing anything with a Cybertruck would be to do it in “Style” as Emmet Brown expressed it regarding the DeLrean. It would clearly be seen as a fat joke on how stupid the car is and looks.
So no the car wasn’t popular enough in sales for the number of cars DeLorean built, but it was never an unpopular atrocity like the Cybertruck is.Edit PS:
they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000
That’s not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMC_DeLoreantotal production reached an estimated 9,000 units
And allegedly they needed to sell about 2000 cars remaining to continue.
Fuck Tesla. No bailouts for Nazis.
Narrator: …
He’s right behind me isn’t he
And retail investors continue to bail out the investors with money who are actually making money. Watch out for that rug!
I am expecting them to end up as ICE technicals, used to hunt down dissidents like…checks notes…American citizens, children, and the elderly.
My pet conspiracy theory has been that Elmo was hoping Trump would mandate that everything gov related has to drive Teslas.
Finally some good news
So your saying one will be able to avoid ICE by simply escaping on days when its raining?
Or, by running through sand or mud!
I would pay 10 bucks to use them in my survival kit as a fire starter.
maybe they should try making their cars not ugly as sin
The main flaw of that thing is its bad engineering. The design was meant to be polarising and if it was actually a good car, it would work in its favour.
They are also larger then expected or needed. The one I see at work just barely fits in the parking spaces, width wise.
But that goes for pretty much any pickup truck. The whole category is an affront to common sense.
Nah. The current crop of US pickups is, I’ll agree; but there’s plenty of older pickups that are much more reasonably scaled. Not to mention non-American models.
Agreed. I was specifically referring to the current crop of US pickups.
Oder Pickups were utility vehicles, not the abhorrent passenger vehicles they are commonly used as today. I’m sure the other person wasn’t referring to your average 1968 F150 used on a farm back in the day.
Next week: US Department of Defence announces purchase of fleet of Cybertrucks.
Already in the works:
State Dept. Plans $400 Million Purchase of Armored Tesla Cybertrucks
Can’t wait to see how well it works to glue armored panels on.
That’s just ridiculous. To spend money to remove infrastructure, out of hidden spite.
hidden?
Well barely. Their given reason is it’s “not mission critical” which is a statement veeeeryyy far from “We are doing it out of spite for electric cars” or “We want our oil narrative to hold from our highest echelons of social hierarchy” or whatever other insane reason
Letting bad actors get away with excuses you are basically making up for them, is how the USA went down the toilet
Can’t wait to meet the successor to M1 Abrams: the M2 Sad Tin Can.
You know, by stock market logic, this would mean they aren’t actually worth $800m
They’re only worth what someone would be willing to pay for them. What’s the scrap value on a cybertruck?
Stock market logic, sell one cybertruck for $1m and your whole inventory is now worth 10x
Simple economy actually. Supply exceeds demand, value on the market is lower.
On the stock market, you can do all kinds of fuckery to gain from this.If the stock market had anythign to do with logic Tesla wouldn’t be worth more than all other car manufacturers combined
Bag holders.
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If nobody wants them, then they are worth $0.
Jokes on you, I’d pay $1 for the lot.
Prepare to pay a $200m fine for littering.
You could definitely sell those for more than $0. The batteries alone aren’t cheap.
I was debating if I’d be willing to take a free cybertruck, your comment reminded me i could take it straight to the scrap yard
A while back, I read an article by a guy who had inherited a SwastiKKKar from an uncle, including free life-time charging. He didn’t like the idea of driving a Tesla, but free was free.
It wasn’t the reactions of others that made him throw in the towel on it, it was the poor build quality. He thought it felt cheap and rattley so he traded it in for a smokin hot Mustang. He lost a fortune over what the car was bought for, but it was free to him, so he didn’t care.
i don’t have full confidence it will make it to the scrapyard
So somewhere inbetween as the article says “more than 10,000 units” and “$800m” so they appear to be valuing them at ~$80k/unit which is ridiculously optimistic.
My guess is closer to 1/3rd of that value but nobody likes to lose half a billion in the blink of an eye
They’re worth something as scrap, I’m sure.
Time to bury them in the desert right beside the ET Atari cartridges.
That is only if they catch fire.
