In the latest episode of “they will always sell you out” - they sold you out! Who would’ve thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can’t exist without “leeching” off of Bitwarden.

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    7 hours ago

    They also don’t effectively allow collaboration though, which is my cheif reason for using a cloud hosted password manager.

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        5 hours ago

        Sharing passwords between groups of people so everyone always has the up to date version. Not breaking the world if two people try to modify the same entry as some file syncing solutions do.

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          4 hours ago

          Hmm, interesting, though isn’t that a fault of the organization not having an account-linking system so that each person could have their own credentials but can still access the unified content? This workaround seems… flimsy, unless I’m not picturing a legit scenario in which no other method is as good, or something.

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            You know why most cloud based services charge money? For stuff like this, because it’s not free to implement and maintain.

            Easy and fault-proof password sharing and syncing needs software and hardware to do. You either set it up and maintain it yourself, or pay for a product that does it - like Bitwarden.

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      6 hours ago

      Sure they do. Multiple people can have a file open at the same time. I use it for exactly this every day at work.

      With KeePassXC, that is. I don’t know if other flavors have different support. I use XC primarily for the browser extension.

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        4 hours ago

        And you can both modify the same things without causing horrible conflict issues? And you can share only parts of your vault with someone rather than having entirely different vaults you have to switch between? I’m assuming you mean putting the file somewhere like Google Drive, and you can access it offline even if you can’t edit it offline? For feature parity with Bitwarden, obviously ideally one could edit any time and it would resolve problems when it came back online if there were any but Bitwarden doesn’t allow this.

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          4 hours ago

          Yes, no conflicts. I don’t know if you can only share part of vault; I just created a separate one for a separate team.

          I wouldn’t put it in Google Drive or anything like that. The separate sync logic will definitely cause conflicts.

          I’m not worried about having access if I’m offline, because if I’m offline I’m not going to be able to log into anything anyway.

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            4 hours ago

            I guess a laptop, server, IoT device, or WiFi connection when your main device doesn’t have internet is out of scope for you?
            Like fixing my laptop and not wanting to type the new password into my phone instead of copy/paste, sync when online?
            And how are you sharing a file, to multiple people anywhere in the world realtime ish, without a cloud service you or someone else hosts? Doesn’t that necessitate some syncronization logic?

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              4 hours ago

              It’s hosted on a local network share, so we don’t need Internet access.

              If can’t copy paste, I just type it out.

              We use a VPN to the office.