cross-posted from: https://piefed.ca/c/canada/p/727265/signal-to-ottawa-we-ll-leave-canada-before-we-help-you-spy-on-users
Signal is drawing a hard line on the federal government’s proposed surveillance legislation: comply with Bill C-22 or leave the country. The secure messaging app says it would rather ditch the Canadian market than be forced to weaken the privacy protections it has built its reputation on. In an interview with The Globe and Mail
so THAT’S why they are clamping down on installing apps from outside the play store.
I still dream of a keyboard that encrypts all messages regardless of the application being used. Like you type and then select the message, a pop up menu lets you encrypt the message using the code that you have chosen with somebody.
The other person receives the message directly unscrambled otherwise this implementation is DOA
Look up oversec.io
It basically uses android accessibility features to both encrypt and decrypt messages.
It is a bit tedious but works: https://fdroid.gitlab.io/jekyll-fdroid/packages/com.amnesica.kryptey/
Edit: Just saw that the last update was 3 years ago, just keep that in mind. I think for some situations it is still useful and can be used, as the encryption and key-exchange seems to be solid.
OpenKeychain has an implementation like this (not 100%) maybe that fits your use case?
Pretty sure I read stories in the past of Google or someone like them banning people who were sending pre encrypted messages over one of their chat services.
They still ban you now and then, if you encrypyt to their drive.
wow so they were reading every single message, amazing
A computer was anyway. These services arent necessarily reading our messages personally, but the algorithms parse them for ad placements or whatever, and it probably got flagged as being unreadable.
Edit: Some services that arent intending to be secure chat might not like the idea of encrypted content on their system either. What is it? What are they now harboring which wasn’t their intent at all? Like if you made a lemmy community and only had encrypted messages on it, a mod from the server might have something to say about it.
Oversec is like that, but IIRC it doesn’t work correctly on the latest versions of android
If they left the Canadian market, what’s preventing Canadians from still using it?
The Canada-region app stores like Apple or Android would be unwilling to let you download the app if the law passes. So without sideloading, it just wouldn’t be accessible.
It’s not sideloading.
Any reason Signal couldn’t offer a web app client?
And by side loading you mean installing software on a device you own, like PCs have been forever. Side loading is a 100% bullshit term created by Apple and Google to try and make sure you don’t think you actually own your devices
Ok, I’m on board. So like what do we call installing an app outside of a store?
Am I the only one who has app store accounts for multiple regions?
But actually, if this happens (and it won’t, at least this time), the next bill to go through would have to be for the right to sideload. Because all of the politicians use Signal and would need a way to install it.
Or people could just install it from fdroid.
Oh wait, signal isn’t FOSS so it isn’t allowed on fdroid.
Molly is on fdroid I believe
I think it used to, but unfortunely Molly is not on Fdroid’s repo. You can download it from the app, but you’d need to add Molly’s repo
Yep and Molly is even better :)
Lol no.
Download the apk. It includes that AGPL and also non free blobs. Just because part of if is Foss does not make if foss
Nothing to laugh at here in my view. It is FOSS. The reason it isn’t on there is sort of procedural. You could easily build signal from source, but signal prefers only their builds connect to their servers. They of course can’t enforce this but fdroid is happy to do so.
I get it from FDroid cia the Guardian repo. No issues.
what about Molly, then?
Molly is Foss, but it’s not on fdroid for likely other sketchy reasons
You can import the repo into F-Droid.
Its on Accrescent though
GrapheneOS frowns upon fdroid because of apk security reasons
Well unless they want to add verified APKs of all the apps I do use to their app store, their frowning is useless because every graphene user basically needs f-droid as it stands now.
I think they can use the VPN to get access to it. It’s a way to make sure governments doesn’t exert too much pressure to give up data!
