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Karl@literature.cafe to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 1 day ago

Can a transgender woman be a lesbian?

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Can a transgender woman be a lesbian?

Karl@literature.cafe to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 1 day ago
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  • RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Transgender women are women.

    Women who love women exclusively are lesbians.

    So, yes.

  • RachelRodent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Yes cuddling with my gf right now

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    Trans status is about gender identity; gay/lesbian/bisexual is about sexual orientation.

    So, a trans woman (MtF) who likes women is a lesbian, because she identifies as a woman who likes women. Her sex identified at birth is not considered a legitimate factor. Likewise, a trans woman (MtF) who likes men is not a gay man, she is a straight woman.

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    Can women be lesbian 🤔

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    yes

  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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    Yes, women can be lesbians.

    • Klear@piefed.world
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      23 hours ago

      As a treat.

      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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        Or full-time, or even both

  • Art3mis@lemmy.world
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    Ive been a trans lesbian for 5 years now. Its great. Im technically pan but i dont really hook up with guys… women are just so 🤌🤤

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    Yes.

  • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Yup.

    Cisgender woman here, I’ve had two trans girlfriends in the past. They were definitely 100% women … I checked very very thoroughly.

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      Wait.

      Are you saying cisgender women can be lesbians too?

      • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Yes, these days that’s allowed too - we’re living in the future, after all!

    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Ah, but were they lesbians? Did you make sure they weren’t bi or pan?

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        One of them definitely was, lol

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      What did you check?

      • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Their lesbian license, obviously

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    Yes

    • Karl@literature.cafeOP
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      Ok

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        We can close the post now.

        • Karl@literature.cafeOP
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          I guess so

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    Trans is their sexual identity and lesbian is their sexual preference. They are not mutually exclusive.

    • RachelRodent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Gender identity*

    • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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      Pretty sure their sexual (or gender) identity is “woman”. The trans thing is usually more a stumbling block than an identity.

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        Yes you are right

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    Yeah- if women love other women you’d typically call that lesbian coded.

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    About a third of all trans women are as a matter of fact

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      About 2/3 of Lemmy as well /s

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        That’s just blahaj.zone .

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      Thats interesting.

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    Sex, gender, expression, and orientation are separate dimensions and can vary independently. While there is coupling and correlation, they are distinct

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      “lesbian” inherently couples gender identity and sexual preference, no? Language and identity are certainly malleable, but it would be news to me than “lesbian” got the “gay” treatment (where the meaning did change from “homosexual man” to “homosexual or bisexual”, depending on the social circle).

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        A trans woman is a woman. If they are attracted to women, they are a lesbian. Regardless of whether or not they are trans.

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          yeah

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        And even within that, T4T is a common preference categorization as well, whether it’s for inherent attraction or just practical reasons. There are terms that prefer solely to the target gender so for instance I’m androphilic (vs gynophilic) mostly in my romantic aspect. I don’t mind both sexually, I’ve just found women’s personalities to be difficult to deal with / have difficulty dealing with me romantically (practical preference). Now, gender wise I’m roughly here:

        ♀️<----------|×--------->♂️

        And my visual preference for a partner is about

        ♀️<------|—|------|---->♂️

        And my personality preference is about

        ♀️<---------||—|------>♂️

        so really CAN I be gay? Especially if I was right on the line there. I will say hubs seems to prefer roughly (in both aspects):

        ♀️<–|-------|-----|---->♂️

        which is pretty neatly bisexual.

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    If born on the island of Lesbos then, yes, definitely… if born somewhere else then the answer to this question might depend on where you get your definition of words.

    Love is love, whatever, but sometimes labels can do damage.

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      Otherwise it’s just sparkling homosexuality

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      Woman*

      *lesbian_style

      That’s a bit cumbersome, isn’t it? I’m fine with “lesbian woman”, no matter where they’re from 💖

      Oh my, I’m having a hard time setting the markdown right…

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      If they’re not from the Lesbos region pf greece it’s only sparkling homosexuality

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