• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      And that’s your choice. But you could still go to the ER for stuff, get treated, and then refuse to pay. Which leaves the state holding the bill. Which is why everyone needs to pay something.

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        4 days ago

        Not paying an $800 a month bill that I couldn’t afford isnt something I would consider “my choice”. I had very little trouble paying for insurance before Obamacare.

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          4 days ago

          I understand that, but that has nothing to do with Obamacare. If Obamacare wasn’t passed those prices would have gone up exactly the same (actually more).

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            If it wasn’t for Obamacare the insurance companies would have to compete on rates, because there wouldn’t be a law that said everyone had to buy their product. They’d also be profiting off of more than the 20% of premiums that Obamacare set as the maximum so they’d have no reason to raise premiums by 91% in a single year.

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              3 days ago

              How does everyone needing insurance prevent competing on rates? That doesn’t make my sense. People still get to pick their insurer. You keep saying 91% and I have no idea where you pulled that number from.

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                3 days ago

                I posted a link to the source earlier in this comment chain. If you want to see it, go find it. I’m not in the business of repeating myself for your benefit.

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                  Sorry, your dishonest citing threw me off. That is for men under 27 in specific counties, not everyone. Also:

                  Remember that these figures represent the underlying, unsubsidized health insurance prices. If you’re eligible for a subsidy—if your income is below 400 percent of the Federal Poverty Level—taxpayers will help defray a portion of these costs

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                    I didn’t say it applied to everyone. I said it applied to me, a lower middle class person in his mid 20s. I said this in response to someone who claimed I was lying that my premiums doubled every year after Obamacare until they were $800 a month and I couldn’t afford them anymore. Sorry, your disingenuous cherry picking of my argument threw me off.

                    Also: fuck off neolib