• osanna@lemmy.vg
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    they should just be billionaires instead. have they tried pulling themselves up by their bootstraps?

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    Fucking Regan, that jackass is most of the reason we’re saddle with the Orange Jackass now. Deregulate this 🖕

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    Fuckin’ master shot. Far right uses Reagan to dog whistle and trigger the Boomers, well so can Mamdani manipulate those Boomers. Excellent work.

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      Next year Millennial voters will outnumber Boomers. Yay! But about 47% of Millennials say they lean Democrat and 45% lean Republican. Boomers lean about 44% Dem, 48% Rep. So it’s a little different but not enough to expect any revolutionary changes.

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    Quoting myself from another post with that topic:
    Mamdani’s plans and actions are almost too good to be true, but true they are and they are more than a silver lining for a lot of people.
    People like him are so desperately needed in the world of robber billionaires enslaving the whole world.
    Those robber billionaires might not realize that yet, but people like Mamdani are going to save their lives by nibbling at their looted fortune.
    And if the Mamdanis of this world fail, we can always resort to eating the billionaires.

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      Those robber billionaires might not realize that yet, but people like Mamdani are going to save their lives by nibbling at their looted fortune.

      You know, if I was a billionaire, I would quite literally want democratic socialists in charge because I’d feel safer if the entire goddamn population didn’t have a reason to kill me for my monies.

      It’s not so much that we don’t have inequality in Europe, but in most countries, even if you work minimum wage and barely get by, you can get sick, have to go to a hospital for treatment, pay nearly nothing out of pocket, and your time off work is also compensated.

      People are a lot less desperate for change when a single health issue won’t derail their entire lives. When people are less desperate, they’re less likely to shoot rich people too. Let’s not forget that Luigi, who may or may not have killed that UHC CEO, had chronic back pain requiring surgery. In his 20s. He came from a well-off family, but chances are his condition is/was going to cost him hundreds of thousands over his lifetime WITH insurance anyway.

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      I love Mamdani, and his existence in office gives me hope for the world, but it’s not just because he’s helping New Yorkers.

      He also demonstrates proof of concept:

      1. Socialist policies are popular: people like him.
      2. Socialist policies are electable: he got voted in.
      3. Socialist policies work: people are materially benefitting, and NYC’s finances have quantifiably improved.
      4. Anti-socialist propaganda has been bullshit from the start: he’s not some shady two-faced evil maniac like the pigs from animal farm (those are the capitalists). He literally means what he says and puts his money where his mouth is, and you can see it every day by his actions.

      Altogether, this can encourage more people to run on socialist policies, especially for local offices in progressive strongholds, but it can seep outward as it catches on.

      It can also encourage the DNC (especially with the new chairman) and elected democrats to support/endorse candidates who run on a progressive agenda. No more hesitancy over whether that’s an electable platform: clearly it is.

      Lastly, it can encourage voters to support these candidates because instead of fearing the big scary “Socialism” word, they can see what it actually is and what it does and they think “Gee, I want what NYC has in my city/town.”

      Taken alongside the upcoming election which will be absolutely punishing to republicans, and people’s disenchantment with establishment Dems and their corporatist policies, this can honestly represent a sea-change in the political landscape of the US, which as we know bleeds out into the rest of the world.

      What we’re experiencing now with the resurgence of fascism is like the birthing pains of a new era: “The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born.”

      That dying old world is putting up a vicious fight, but it’s like an injured leopard: dangerous, to be sure, and doubly-so in its desperation; but it won’t be long before it perishes.

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      Yeah, people were joking that the media outlets were afraid of Mamdani getting elected because he would fail as a mayor of one of the largest cities in the world. But what they were actually afraid of is him succeeding using socialist policies.

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          Too right! Social Security, Medicare(though that’s been whittled down to glorified insurance company at this point), Medicaid, the Fire Department, trash collection, Food Stamps, all crops grown in the US are subsidized(Fuck You Monsanto!), and literally every paved non-toll road and bridge you use has been built with taxpayer money. Plus more I can’t even think of at the moment.

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      Idolize the actions, not the person. No one is perfect. And people who have the skills to win elections are much more often “flawed”. If the flaw ends up being something really bad and gets out, all the progress will be for naught. But if we idolize the actions, they can be separated from the person if need be.

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        Very true, we are all flawed humans.

        It would do us good to examine why democratically elected positions don’t often attract the right people, I suspect some mix the right people are often too busy, don’t want to deal with the harassment, can’t afford it. And that last point is critical, greed as a character flaw skews to the wealthy.

        Then there is marketing/charisma angle, even if you objectively have the best person in hand… they still need to be elected, which is tougher to solve

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      “Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.” -George Carlin

      Well, shit. That’s only seven. Fuck. Take ‘em or leave ‘em you cocksucking motherfuckers. 😘

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        Yep Reagan was an absolute douchebag. He really thought that rich people earned every dollar and that poor people were leeches on society and the government. He’s also famous for coining the phrase “welfare Queen”. As if living on welfare was somehow an easy life

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          And him, along with Hitler and Drump, promised to “make america (Germany) great again”, word for word.

          As in, return it to the time where you could beat a black boy to death by accusing him of whistling at a white women and face zero repercussions.

          Absolute evil.

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          He’s also directly responsible (along with Thatcher) for the neoliberal economic order which dominates the globe today, favoring the wealthy while offering nothing but austerity to the poor.

          Before him, we had the remnants of the New Deal economic order, which wasn’t perfect but relative to today’s standards it was basically social democracy. Of course, Nixon took a chunk out of that progress, but it wasn’t truly dead until Reagan.

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              You forgot one, “Rich white people.” while typically they are associated with the first two, there are distinct evils that happen as well.

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                If you can’t see the inherent connection between Reagan-era economic policies and “rich white people” becoming the monstrosity that it is today, then I think this conversation is above your level.

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        Yeah… I’m sure hurricane victims hate hearing that shit. Or wildfire victims. I could go on and on. It’s almost like if you actually think about any of these stupid ass Republican catch phrases for a minute they’re complete bullshit.

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          Well republican-led states literally rejected disaster relief aid from Biden’s government, and then blamed Biden for supposedly not helping. And people in those backwater areas bought it hook line and sinker.

          And then early on in trump’s second term when Texas got rid of early flood warning systems, and a bunch of girl scouts died in a flash flood because they were all camping on a flood plane, nobody batted an eye about the government’s failure.

          (By the way, there was a town in texas that kept their warning systems in place, and they experienced zero deaths from that flood. Golly days).

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            Honestly, the lack of measures against disaster is a likely predictor of how well the Neo-Confederate states would do in a 2nd American Civil War.

            That makes me hopeful about the ending of that future history, for rather horrific reasons. 😕

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      Mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall and fuck me.

      the 80s was a wild time. this is the photo that was taken soon after Reagan had been penetrated, anally, by Gorbachev. you can tell how happy he was by the smile on his face.

      1000003935

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            So let me get this straight:

            You’re knowingly peddling misinformation (which makes it disinformation), which only discredits all of the legitimate critique present in this thread; and your response to someone asking for confirmation whether what you said is true or not was a snarky reply insinuating that I’m somehow gullible (for asking if something was true? Which is not the same thing as unquestioning belief, by the way).

            In other words, you find it so hilarious and depraved that anyone could possibly wonder if anything you say is worth taking seriously?

            At least I know now that you’re not a serious person.

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              Me when someone tells a joke

              On the one hand, there’s no fucking way you thought it might be possible that Reagan had said “tear down this wall and fuck me.” But on the other hand, it would be really funny if you did, so I choose to believe it

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                Obviously the quote would be the joke, but it was insinuating that he actually did have sex with Gorbachev, which is honestly not that outlandish and was worth asking for confirmation.

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              if you’re on a political community thread and mistake Robbin Williams for Ronald Reagan you’re asking for it.

              chill tf out dude.

              whatever “disinformation” I’m “peddling” about Reagan isn’t a quarter as bad as the real shit he said or did.

              get off your high horse.

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                whatever “disinformation” I’m “peddling” about Reagan isn’t a quarter as bad as the real shit he said or did.

                Right, so take some of the legitimate critique you can make about Reagan and focus on that instead of discrediting yourself and everyone else who criticizes him by presenting falsehoods as facts “on a political thread,” as you pointed out.

                If you can’t see how damaging long-term it can be to spread bullshit instead of factual critiques, then you’re the one who has a high-horse you need to dismount.

                It’s not Reagan I’m defending, it’s the integrity of the criticism directed at Reagan.

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      Not really, he decided not to tax the rich and instead, took funds from the state (that could serve the poor) to prevent raising taxes on the rich.

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        You mean reclaiming a higher percentage of New Yorker’s tax dollars for New Yorkers?

        NYC pays more in taxes to the state than it recieves. Seems fair they get more money back for their community

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        Why are we saying that Mamdani getting funds from the state is a bad thing? Hasn’t NYC subsidized the rest of the state while getting little in return from them in the past?

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          These centrists want him to hand that cash over to billionaires instead, obviously, like Biden, Obama, and Clinton did. The notion of one’s taxes being used for the citizens own benefit is scary to them.

          I kid.

          What they want is for Mamdani to be as shitty as they and the people they vote for are so they can feel better in telling us that better things aren’t possible.

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          This works on an intra-state level and interstate level. Usually the poorer, rural areas of a state require financial assistance to support their people that comes from the higher taxes and earnings cities make. From there states that don’t have strong metropolitan centers with a lot of business and money flow require cash flows from those that do in order to support themselves. No one in those poorer states will admit to it because it also kills the self sufficient by nature image they have of themselves.

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          No no no. You see, urban centers generating all the wealth and then giving that wealth to the apple pie loving rugged individualists in suburban-pretending-to-be-rural areas is the natural order. Any change to this system is unAmerican, evil, greedy city fatcats out fatcatting it up like a bunch of commies. /s

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          Hasn’t NYC subsidized the rest of the state while getting little in return from them in the past?

          I mean, yes, because NYC is where the money is. Manhattan is full of millionaires, and most of Upstate is either farmland or abandoned company towns that have spent the last three decades trying to rebuild after Kodak/Xerox/GE packed up and moved out.

          Can’t get blood from a stone.

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            Second one isn’t a source, and first one literally says he implemented a tax on second houses, which is a tax on the rich. I don’t know what you mean.

            You also can’t blame someone for not reading every comment on every post in the community.

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              You also can’t blame someone for not reading every comment on every post in the community.

              It’s the otherway around sunshine: I am trying to garner how much pelespirit, you, and 21 of you know about how rich people keep their money.

              tax on second houses, which is a tax on the rich.

              Blackrock & Vanguard do not own homes. Yet they own every company in the AmeriKKKa. If Mamdani wanted to actually go after the actual rich of NYC, he’d be targeting their industries.

              Also, liquidate private equity entirely.

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                “He hasn’t cleared the impossibly high bar I set so obviously he is trash”

                Mamdani cannot liquidate private equity.

                Targeting industry might or might not be possible for a mayor. NY has the most powerful mayor in the country but that doesn’t make him all powerful.

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                  Is there a reason why you place strawmen interpretations when trying to actualize meaningful progress?

                  Mamdani cannot liquidate private equity.

                  In his city, he can make it both illegal to do so, and use that liquidity for state projects.

                  Targeting industry might or might not be possible for a mayor…

                  Better to try where it actually penalizes the rich, than people with actual needs of secondary homes.