• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22
• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata
• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill
• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22
• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata
• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill
Sure. Tuta is better though.
No, it isn’t.
Oh pray tell how so? Because proton not only accepts people on blacklists as deserving to be there with no way to appeal, despite you know, things. But they also removed like thousands of people that the US government said they were suspicious of they sent them a list and they suspended all their email accounts, no appeal nothing. Based on the word of the United States government, a famously untrustworthy source. I say that as United States citizen.
You’re going to have to elaborate or rephrase this because I have no idea what you’re trying to say here
No they didn’t.
First of all the second part was in the news just like 6 9 months ago, I might not have an entirely right but that’s generally what they did, they took the word off governments over people. Second of all I happen to know they accept blacklists as trustworthy, I know because someone who isn’t me is on one and they refused them an account.
In truth they are Israel’s bitch. In short.
No they didn’t. Thats not “generally” what they did at all. You’re just spreading more misinformation that you admittedly aren’t even very confident about.
Do you have any proof of this? Or are you just going with “I heard from a guy”?
Is it this, or something else?
https://theintercept.com/2025/09/12/proton-mail-journalist-accounts-suspended/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45227316
@Photonic@lemmy.world @mabeledo@lemmy.world @EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world I’m glad you took the time to look at my post, but why did you dislike it? Did the new information offend you in some way?
Because it’s dumb.
Every legitimate email service has anti abuse policies in place. The alternative is letting the service be turned into a bot farming operation, or worse.
Still waiting for your recommended alternatives.
It’s just incredibly stupid and short-sighted.
Edit: also, how are you tracking your downvotes? Serious question.
You were trying to help out that other misinformation bot find the made up event he was talking about and you couldn’t. I downvoted it because that’s what you’re supposed to do with unhelpful information.
The information I provided was true. Why are you lying about it?
I do read The Intercept but that article is not what I’m talking about, there’s something else that was a lot worse than that that they did just last year. Someone who isn’t me signed up for an account and it’s totally legit and was denied because they’re on a blacklist because Israel and there was no way to like appeal on proton.
I’d love to see that article if you can find it. I’ll add it to a folder’s worth of bookmarks that is growing larger than it should.
I was just saying my comment that while I do read that publication what I’m talking about is a direct experience of someone who is not me.
Because, for some reason on Lemmy, people think Proton is above criticism, and will defend the corporation’s false claims of fighting for their users when we have article after article proving the opposite
They’re not at all above criticism. The thing is all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation born from either technical ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation of the facts. None of which stand up to a moments scrutiny, much less “prove” anything.
On the more innocent side of the scale, you’ll have people chastising Proton over negatives that are entirely out of their control, and exist because they have to when operating as a public email provider. Then those same people will point people to alternatives like Fastmail or Tutanota that have all the same problems, but are less transparent about it.
Like if you want to make an argument against public email providers as a whole you can surely do so, but so far there’s really no evidence that Proton is anything but as good as you are reasonably going to get if you do decide to use one.
Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway
No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.
I didn’t make any misinformation. Nor is there a strawman. If you think there is “article after article” of proof then feel free to provide a couple.
Like what exactly?
You claimed there was misinformation. Show us where you think it is. Don’t be a hypocrite.
You claimed there is article after article of proof. Go ahead and share it with us. You can’t just uno-reverse the burden of proof for your claim to me lol.
There is plenty of misinformation in this thread alone. Like this comment here
Which consists of a completely fabricated story about Proton with no evidence that it happened, and some anecdote the OP heard from somebody else with no verification whatsoever.
I’d like to see those “articles over articles” that do not reference the one case that is cited over and over please.
You already educated everybody here that Proton is not to be trusted when it comes to logging. What do I get out of talking to you further, my anarchist friend? If you see a couple more articles, will you make a post condemning Proton’s false advertisement?
I’m more of a socialist than an anarchist, although i sympathize with anarchists - socialism and anarchism can have quite some overlap.
Any you really should work on your reading skills, because what i wrote and what you want to understand are two very different things. Since they don’t log IPs when not court ordered, no court can retroactively extract that data, and to be honest, if you know that you might attract government attention, using Tor or a VPN (yes, even ProtonVPN would have sufficed in this case) is basic OpSec - both would have prevented actionable intel being logged.
You sound like you would be absolutely outraged if you found out Proton marketed itself towards activists. Have you looked at the promises on their homepage recently?
If you are an activist and don’t use basic OpSec, you have only yourself to blame in this age.