Ladies had a maid, men buttoned themselves.
Wasnt it so that it was easier for the woman to do up the man’s buttons for them?
Beside real men don’t button their own clothes.
I’d always heard it was the opposite. Women had help to get dressed so the buttons were positioned to make it easier for someone else but men had to do it themselves.
Women’s clothing also tends to have fasteners in the back. Corsets, bras, dresses, etc. Not a woman but I have undone my fair share of garments.
Not a woman but I have undone my fair share of garments.
…ladies
The article suggests that women had more complicated garb that required support staff.
Yeah this jives with what I remembered. And the images of a person pulling strings on a corset usually with a foot in her back for leverage. When you need another person and mechanical advantage to put on a garment, something is wrong somewhere.
The explanation I heard was that when seated at the table as traditional table partners, the woman should be to the right of the man. Having opposite button placement means you cannot look into the gaps between the buttons and accidentally get a glimpse of your partner’s chest.
Traditionally, host and hostess are at opposite ends of the table, couples are separated and gender alternates.
Also, why would anyone care if you look at your wife’s boobs?
Because sex is dirty and evil apparently and something bad that should only be done in the most unstimulating and quickest way just to procreate. Anything else is evil and gross and so alluring… I mean disgusting and awful.
This teaching definitely, absolutely doesn’t come from insecure historic incels who only knew how to control and not love. Definitely not, this is absolutely from Heaven itself and should not be questioned.
This reminds me of the theory that anyone who thinks being gay is a choice is probably a suppressed bisexual.
Ding ding ding
Its a functional issue with the design of the shirt.
Before the invention of stretch fabric, the three dimensional bodice shape had to be made with generous allowances between each fastening.
I think you replied to the wrong comment
I’d like to point out that it makes undressing a person of the opposite button-direction easier. Because they’re facing you but your finger muscles are trained from undressing yourself. So just maybe all the stuff about servants is bowdlerizing the real purpose. Nobody was helping lowerclass women, and rich men had valets.
Fashion always follows wealth. If rich people have their clothes made a certain way, regardless of function, everyone else will copy the form.
That didn’t stop them to use the ‘wrong way’ to lie having those helping hands.
Look I am Rich! (Points at a fake Prafa bag)
It’s because gentry had servants button women into their clothes.
As a woman myself I find it easier to button my husband’s shirt than my daughter’s. Because my hands know how to do my own, facing in the opposite direction on my body.
When my dad taught me how to tie a neck tie, he had to do it from behind. He tried it facing me and just could not figure it out.
I want my clothes to be put together with dovetail joints. Who do I go to for that?
Zippers are basically flexible dovetail joints. Take a look at one when it’s done up.
You’ve got the same interlocking pattern often with fat tips
I wonder if there’s a designer out there exclusively making clothes with zippers for all stitches.
in all honesty though i’ve had too many zippers get f’d up in effectively every hoodie and winter jacket i’ve owned. I need something a bit more reliable. Maybe the answer is human hair thread stitching or cast plates and chain stitching.
You mean Tetsuya Nomura?
Xyla Foxlin just made a dress out of wood laminate, so she’s in the ballpark.
Jesus tapdancing Christ, that is so insanely cool. Xyla is amazing. The model was great, too, no shade on Xyla but it just looks better on dark skin imo.
That thing looks amazing. Now I just need a kilt version with some kind of shirt and blazer for formal events.
I think sitting might be difficult. Do people ever sit at galas? Might not be an issue, I’m too poor to know lol
I love her!
I noticed this with one of my kids shirts. The buttons are backwards for easy dressing. Doesn’t explain half my zip hoodies which are the wrong way round however.
My mom always loved this because she’s left-handed
But were her servants left handed?
No, we were all right handed





