• Senal@programming.dev
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    4 hours ago

    Wasnt it so that it was easier for the woman to do up the man’s buttons for them?

    Beside real men don’t button their own clothes.

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      4 hours ago

      I’d always heard it was the opposite. Women had help to get dressed so the buttons were positioned to make it easier for someone else but men had to do it themselves.

      • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
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        Women’s clothing also tends to have fasteners in the back. Corsets, bras, dresses, etc. Not a woman but I have undone my fair share of garments.

      • Artisian@lemmy.worldOP
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        3 hours ago

        The article suggests that women had more complicated garb that required support staff.

        • billwashere@lemmy.world
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          Yeah this jives with what I remembered. And the images of a person pulling strings on a corset usually with a foot in her back for leverage. When you need another person and mechanical advantage to put on a garment, something is wrong somewhere.

  • 404@lemmy.zip
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    The explanation I heard was that when seated at the table as traditional table partners, the woman should be to the right of the man. Having opposite button placement means you cannot look into the gaps between the buttons and accidentally get a glimpse of your partner’s chest.

    • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
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      Traditionally, host and hostess are at opposite ends of the table, couples are separated and gender alternates.

      Also, why would anyone care if you look at your wife’s boobs?

      • nforminvasion@lemmy.world
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        Because sex is dirty and evil apparently and something bad that should only be done in the most unstimulating and quickest way just to procreate. Anything else is evil and gross and so alluring… I mean disgusting and awful.

        This teaching definitely, absolutely doesn’t come from insecure historic incels who only knew how to control and not love. Definitely not, this is absolutely from Heaven itself and should not be questioned.

      • ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        Its a functional issue with the design of the shirt.

        Before the invention of stretch fabric, the three dimensional bodice shape had to be made with generous allowances between each fastening.

  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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    I’d like to point out that it makes undressing a person of the opposite button-direction easier. Because they’re facing you but your finger muscles are trained from undressing yourself. So just maybe all the stuff about servants is bowdlerizing the real purpose. Nobody was helping lowerclass women, and rich men had valets.

    • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      Fashion always follows wealth. If rich people have their clothes made a certain way, regardless of function, everyone else will copy the form.

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      7 hours ago

      That didn’t stop them to use the ‘wrong way’ to lie having those helping hands.
      Look I am Rich! (Points at a fake Prafa bag)

    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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      9 hours ago

      As a woman myself I find it easier to button my husband’s shirt than my daughter’s. Because my hands know how to do my own, facing in the opposite direction on my body.

      • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        When my dad taught me how to tie a neck tie, he had to do it from behind. He tried it facing me and just could not figure it out.

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    12 hours ago

    I noticed this with one of my kids shirts. The buttons are backwards for easy dressing. Doesn’t explain half my zip hoodies which are the wrong way round however.