You focused on the notion of state versus nation (what the screenshot talk about).
The nation of France exists since centuries and have never been reset by any war or change of leadership.
We didn’t reset our identity as Franc(ais) because we updated our government system (we iterate it several time and will continue probably soon by another version).
Sometime it’s monarchy, sometimes it’s republic. Depend on what happens to us.
But the nation of Franc(e) started to exists when Clovis Ier merged several kingdoms at around the 500 AD. We learn that in history class when we are young and learn about our history (for those interested: wiki).
Using one of the government iteration of a nation to say: it’s no more, let’s reset everything is missing the point of the global message.
Does the usa reset when updating its constitution?
The concept of the US as a country is not very old
it’s true that there has been a country called “France” for hundreds of years longer than the US
Yes, the notion of France as a country is older than the US. But the French Republic is not. The institutions change, the country endures. The US is a young country but its institutions are surprisingly old. That’s the whole fucking point.
I see your point now. If you focus on the “republic” creation, yes. USA is older than France republic by few years.
But, please, don’t tell me the original writer had that in mind. He/she is talking about nation. And, for example, a monarchy (our previous gouvernement state beforethe first republic) is a valid nation definition.
Of course I’m not going to tell you that, because I’m not saying the original commenter in the screenshot is right. You seemed to have missed that too.
Nop, nop nop.
You focused on the notion of state versus nation (what the screenshot talk about).
The nation of France exists since centuries and have never been reset by any war or change of leadership.
We didn’t reset our identity as Franc(ais) because we updated our government system (we iterate it several time and will continue probably soon by another version).
Sometime it’s monarchy, sometimes it’s republic. Depend on what happens to us.
But the nation of Franc(e) started to exists when Clovis Ier merged several kingdoms at around the 500 AD. We learn that in history class when we are young and learn about our history (for those interested: wiki).
Using one of the government iteration of a nation to say: it’s no more, let’s reset everything is missing the point of the global message.
Does the usa reset when updating its constitution?
Did you even read the god-damn comment?
Yes, the notion of France as a country is older than the US. But the French Republic is not. The institutions change, the country endures. The US is a young country but its institutions are surprisingly old. That’s the whole fucking point.
I see your point now. If you focus on the “republic” creation, yes. USA is older than France republic by few years.
But, please, don’t tell me the original writer had that in mind. He/she is talking about nation. And, for example, a monarchy (our previous gouvernement state beforethe first republic) is a valid nation definition.
Of course I’m not going to tell you that, because I’m not saying the original commenter in the screenshot is right. You seemed to have missed that too.