Not for nothing, but the tendency for people who get along purely by being conventionally attractive to starfish isn’t like, a secret. Lack of effort isn’t really a gendered thing.
My comment wasn’t talking about people who exhibit a lack of effort with sex.
There’s a lot that goes into why a person may starfish during sex and, maybe surprisingly to you, a lot of it is rooted in lack of sexual education and/or sexual abuse.
You’re literally talking to a woman who puts in effort with sex. Enough to know there’s a lot more ways to try to please someone than shoving your dick inside and calling it a day.
You’re certainly not qualified to teach anyone about pleasing others in bed.
Geez, maybe it’s because I’m tired af and it’s the end of the day, but I’m really having trouble following the thread here. I shouldn’t have to type out my history, but I’m NOT unfamiliar with SA, nor with having sex with men/masc-types. Falling back on implied accusations of nonconsent/SA to win an argument where it wasn’t brought up until you typed it out is kinda scummy.
I genuinely do not read where they are doing what you’re saying they’re doing. All they said was someone laying down and not putting effort into sex may have a history of trauma. Meanwhile, you and the other fella kinda were ridiculing people who do that…
Not for nothing, but the tendency for people who get along purely by being conventionally attractive to starfish isn’t like, a secret. Lack of effort isn’t really a gendered thing.
Where I very specifically narrow it down to vapid people who are in it for self-pleasure as opposed to mutual enjoyment.
The acrobatic inception of the idea that we’re talking about people reliving trauma instead of just being emotionally checked out like the entire previous thread implied is what I take issue with, it’s some legitimately heinous fake ally shit to use that as a non-sequiter argument.
And yes, implying that I or the guy before me continued on through a partner reliving trauma IS nonconsent which IS rape. You can’t imply one without implying the other.
So you think that’s the level of effort a woman is supposed to put in, because she’s a woman and thus can’t be responsible for her actions? That’s incredibly sexist.
Not for nothing, but the tendency for people who get along purely by being conventionally attractive to starfish isn’t like, a secret. Lack of effort isn’t really a gendered thing.
My comment wasn’t talking about people who exhibit a lack of effort with sex.
There’s a lot that goes into why a person may starfish during sex and, maybe surprisingly to you, a lot of it is rooted in lack of sexual education and/or sexual abuse.
To check your prejudices, please complete these two sentences:
A man who doesn’t take care of his partner during sex is …
A woman who doesn’t take care of her partner during sex is …
Selfish and probably not even enjoying themselves, certainly not enjoying their partner.
Not all men have penises and not all women have vaginas, you can actually go fuck yourself.
My comment wasn’t talking about people who exhibit a lack of effort with sex.
True. And who’s job is it to educate a grown woman on sex? Are you so sexist that you think women can’t be responsible for educating themselves?
You’re literally talking to a woman who puts in effort with sex. Enough to know there’s a lot more ways to try to please someone than shoving your dick inside and calling it a day.
You’re certainly not qualified to teach anyone about pleasing others in bed.
Kid, you aren’t reading, are you? Too busy being angry.
If I believed that, I wouldn’t be a woman who took responsibility for educating myself on sex, would I?
I’m not the one struggling with reading comprehension here.
Yes, you are.
Can you elaborate on
?
You’re the one defending the sexist comment.
Geez, maybe it’s because I’m tired af and it’s the end of the day, but I’m really having trouble following the thread here. I shouldn’t have to type out my history, but I’m NOT unfamiliar with SA, nor with having sex with men/masc-types. Falling back on implied accusations of nonconsent/SA to win an argument where it wasn’t brought up until you typed it out is kinda scummy.
I genuinely do not read where they are doing what you’re saying they’re doing. All they said was someone laying down and not putting effort into sex may have a history of trauma. Meanwhile, you and the other fella kinda were ridiculing people who do that…
I’m going to copy my original comment:
Where I very specifically narrow it down to vapid people who are in it for self-pleasure as opposed to mutual enjoyment.
The acrobatic inception of the idea that we’re talking about people reliving trauma instead of just being emotionally checked out like the entire previous thread implied is what I take issue with, it’s some legitimately heinous fake ally shit to use that as a non-sequiter argument.
And yes, implying that I or the guy before me continued on through a partner reliving trauma IS nonconsent which IS rape. You can’t imply one without implying the other.
lol I did not accuse you of rape. That’s insane levels of cope for being called out on defending a sexist comment.
Being nasty about women laying back and only offering their vaginas is worse than anything I’ve said.
So you think that’s the level of effort a woman is supposed to put in, because she’s a woman and thus can’t be responsible for her actions? That’s incredibly sexist.
Nah I think you’re nasty about women because you’re a pathetic man who can’t take accountability for his own actions.
And you’re transphobic.
Yeah, didn’t say anything about trans at all. You wanted to be offended, so you made up an offence. Well done, you now are offended.