I mean never forget the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Even if you weren’t a sadistic genocidal psychopath, put on a uniform and go guard a secret prison where you literally are the law and order without oversight or consequence to your actions, and you and your guard buddies will soon become it.
That’s why oversight and transparency is so critical in civilized democracies, and even then it’s a constant uphill struggle.
These people started out sadistic genocidal psychopaths, just imagine the things we will never learn that they did… The fucking horrors…
Let’s do forget that experiment, since the “guards” were urged to act aggressive towards the prisoners. The “researchers” deliberately created hostility between the groups.
Read more under the Critiques of scientific validity section on the Wikipedia
I’m not seeing how that makes it any better. They knew it was just an experiment but still allowed people with the mere authority of “running an experiment” manipulate them into acting like that. Or accepted permission from them to act like that without needing to be manipulated into it.
That clarification just brings into question the wording of the conclusion, I don’t think it does anything to redeem our species and how it handles power over others.
I mean never forget the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Even if you weren’t a sadistic genocidal psychopath, put on a uniform and go guard a secret prison where you literally are the law and order without oversight or consequence to your actions, and you and your guard buddies will soon become it.
That’s why oversight and transparency is so critical in civilized democracies, and even then it’s a constant uphill struggle.
These people started out sadistic genocidal psychopaths, just imagine the things we will never learn that they did… The fucking horrors…
Let’s do forget that experiment, since the “guards” were urged to act aggressive towards the prisoners. The “researchers” deliberately created hostility between the groups.
Read more under the Critiques of scientific validity section on the Wikipedia
I’m not seeing how that makes it any better. They knew it was just an experiment but still allowed people with the mere authority of “running an experiment” manipulate them into acting like that. Or accepted permission from them to act like that without needing to be manipulated into it.
That clarification just brings into question the wording of the conclusion, I don’t think it does anything to redeem our species and how it handles power over others.
Yeah fuck that experiment. Has any experiment generated more misanthrope than The Stanford Prison experiment?
Tbf we do the same with real prison guards…and police and military. The us vs them propaganda is a key part of the training and culture for all three.
Yeah that criticism might have validity for how to interpret the results but this specific situation still matches that new interpretation.