Iran re-closed the Strait of Hormuz Friday instead of heading to Switzerland for nuclear negotiations, citing Israel’s refusal to pull forces out of southern Lebanon and US forces’ ongoing presence in the region.

In a statement read over maritime radio channels, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the US was in violation of the memorandum of understanding between Washington and Tehran, which President Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian signed Wednesday.

“Since Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon, the complete lifting of the naval blockade, and the withdrawal of American terrorist forces from the Persian Gulf and the region are among the main conditions of the agreement between Iran and the United States, the Strait of Hormuz will remain closed until these conditions are met,” it said. “All ships are requested, for the sake of their security and safety, not to approach the Strait of Hormuz. Any vessel that defies this directive will be targeted.”

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    Quite the Cluster Fuck and Israel, with their US politicians, are running the USA into the ground.

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    Netanyahu literally cannot pull his troops back. Any peace time for Israel means autopsies on the conflict and the whole Israeli government getting charged for war crimes. Governments understand this and it’s going to be Western governments stepping aside and withdrawing their money to allow Israel to get flattened by the regional powers. I don’t like the Israeli government, and there certainly are a lot of supporters in the region (probably over 50%), but we’re probably about to see a whole bunch of innocent Israel citizens being vaporized as well.

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      I think you have an oversized confidence in our international justice system. When the good guys commit genocide or war crimes, no one goes to the Hague. Cases in point: Indonesia (twice over), Guatemala, the war on “terror”.

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      but we’re probably about to see a whole bunch of innocent Israel citizens being vaporized as well.

      Maybe they shouldn’t have been openly celebrating in the streets when they were bombing Gaza.

      What goes around comes around.

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        They have government-sponsored observation decks where you can watch Gaza through fixed telescopes while passing a blunt and cheer as bombs drop.

        It’s really a mystery that nobody likes them, huh.

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      It’s not even that complicated. If he lets Israel off a war footing, he’s in front of the corruption court that he’s attempted to subvert multiple times.

      If Israel ever charges anyone over the actual war crimes, I’ll eat a bug.

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      Not sure if I understand what you’re trying to say. My read of this MOU is that the US is pulling the plug. Israel is already overextended in Lebanon, and they for sure can not fight Iran without the backing of the USA.

      And even if they had that backing, interceptors are depleted and radars destroyed. Dimona got hit with a nuclear-capable rocket loaded with sand, a clear message which they know how to interpret. They’ll keep testing the waters with Trump for a bit, but the US will clarify to them that they really aren’t bluffing with this MOU.

      Israel has no right to be butthurt that they didn’t get a seat at the negotiating table. They’re a proxy, not a partner. They are living way beyond their means and that’s coming to an end. Their bluff has been called. Now they need to stfu and do as they are told.

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      There are no innocent Israeli scum. They are all guilty of the rape and genocide of real Semites (Palestinians).

      Israel can have its peace when every last motherfucking zionist is all dead.

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    Israel is the Main Culprit keeping the ECONOMICALLY NECESSARY Straight of Hormuz closed? And because of that the US Economy is going to be DEVESTATED? Quick! We MUST give the Israelis MORE US Taxdollars and MORE US Military Intelligence!

    -The US Congress LITERALLY!

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      Those days are over! Say no to Israeli funding and YES to merging the military industrial complexes together so that you’ll never know where the money goes, let alone stop it.

      AIPAC is also dead! Long live a thousand innocent sounding organizations with “fundraisers” instead. Nothing nefarious, all above board. The most moral people work in the darkness in case you didn’t know.

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    Nukes are so 20th century. Who needs nukes when you can literally shut down the global economy with a phone call?

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      A phone call, an armada of speed boats, thousands of sea mines, and a mosaic defense strategy that allows for the continuous firing of ballistic missiles after suffering $1T in infrastructure damage.

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    Watching this every day is like watching two narcissists with autism arguing.

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        Iranian, Israeli, and US leadership are all self absorbed authoritarians who care more about looking powerful and could give fuck all about the ppl they supposedly govern

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          Bro, iran found out that if they just block the strait they wont get bombed. In what universe is keeping their cities from being bombed not giving a fuck all about their people?

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            I am an iranian citizen, they do not give a shit about us. Trying not to get bombed is rule 1:1 of not having your government collapse

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            They’re selfishly preventing us from accessing the jet fuel we use to power our bombers.

            It’s unsporting, petty, and deeply unchristian. They should be ashamed of themselves.

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            All the Iranians in exile will probably tell you the current government doesnt give a shit about the populace

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              That seems like a biased sample set.

              You’re telling me all the people who have had problems with the government think the government is bad? I’m shocked!

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                I’m confused… Are you hinting at the Iranian regime not being as bad as Iranians living abroad make it out to be?

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                  No, I’m pointing out the concept of sampling bias. There are no doubt valid criticisms of the Iranian government as there are with every government.

                  When I hear Iranian immigrants on cable news being like “it’s good the U.S. is bombing the homes of people I used to live with” I’m like “that’s a crazy take”. more precisely “why would someone wish something so horrible on their former neighbor”.

                  Just cause you lived somewhere for a while doesn’t mean you know what is best for the people still living there. It may imply a certain level of knowledge. But those people can still have bad takes --just like Americans can have bad takes about America-- and those bad takes can be biased by the particular experience they have had and that’s worth considering.

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                Some Iranians I know said their family members protesting the regime were shot and injured and 1000s of citizens killed.
                They drive by and seek out people using starlink type systems that communicated with the outside world, due to the communication ban , internet ban. While the Iranians don’t want to be bombed they want their oppressive government out of power and were welcoming invasion originally.

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                  Doesnt justify bombing grade schools and reservoirs of the citizens being oppressed though does it. So its pretty obvious that Israel and the Us arent bombing Iran to help the Iranian citizens out, isnt that right.

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                It’s true of 100% of Iranians I know. It has to be accurate with the very large number Iranians I know.

                3 is a really big number right?

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            So it can cover, cane, and oppress them.

            There are no good guys here. Mommy and Daddy are fighting to see who gets to fiddle the kids.

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                Iran only cares about those because they know if they let Gaza and Lebanon fall to Israel unopposed, Iran is next. It’s complete self interest.

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                  There is no “Iran is next.” Pretty sure Isreal and the US just tried to beat Iran into submission and failed. Iran’s time came and they survived.

                  Iran could easily turn it’s back on Lebanon and survive, just as the rest of the world has. But unlike the rest of the world it’s actually using the leverage it has to stop a massive genocide.

                  No one is saying Iran is a wonderful country with leaders that belive in peace and equality for their people but the blood on the US and Isreal hands flows further than Irans.

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            It’s only part to do with Autism. My experience with moderate to strong autism in people is like a dog with a bone. They will not drop a point and will stay super focused on it even when everyone else has moved on, or conversation moves forward. Autism makes people “sticky” they won’t drop a view they hold without trusting the people they are interacting with to a significant degree. This is not

            But the other descriptors are very important to producing shitty people. The part that makes this bad is the narcissist part.

            Autism is just one that makes it hard to put themselves in the other peoples shoes. Autism makes it difficult to understand other people’s perspective and can lock in on their own experience of the world which doesn’t usually align with the vast majority of other humans. They have a really hard time relating to other people in some people.

            Having 3 such people with the those specific traits arguing against each other, the autism part is not what makes them bad people. A better way to describe the affect autism would have in this scenario is that you could say ruthlessly and mercilessly tenacious instead of autism because that’s the enhancement autism produces in this scenario.

            It’s a very useful capability when channelled in good ways, channeling it in narcissistic ways is what is wrong here. Autism is a powerup, it’s not bad the way the other descriptors are

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              You don’t have to be autistic to get stuck on a view, look at the MAGA base while the leopard eats their faces

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                No you dont. Absolutely correct. But it’s a very different kind of compulsion for people who express their autism that way.

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          True for half of the USA and most of Iran, but the vast, vast majority of Israelis are even more bloothirsty and shitty as their war criminal leaders. Dont rope the US and Iranian public in with Israelis. Thats fucking insulting.

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          Those narcissists at Iran, how dare they ask for peace and not be satisfied with invasion, subjugation, and killing of innocents

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            To be fair, the regime’s response to the civil unrest was so unnecessarily bloody and violent that some sort of international response was almost inevitable.

            So yeah, crazy people who don’t give two cents about their people.

            And if you really want to muddy the waters, then consider the Iranian diaspora in the US, who are hardcore MAGA-supporters and who literally asked Trump to bomb ‘their’ country.

            Or the former prince of Iran asking Trump’s blessing to lead his country again, after spending the majority of his life achieving nothing and living of the fortunes his father stole from Iran.

            It really is narcissists all the way down…

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    Watching the US get its economy shredded by a pedophile would be a lot more entertaining if I wasn’t a participant in that economy.

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    Powerful and resourceful gangsters have banded together to make war upon the whole human race

    FDR, Dec 9, 1941

    Give them hell Iran.