The way blackmailing works is, the blakmailer threatens the blackmailee to reveal their secrets.
Trump’s secrets are already out there: he’s a convicted rapist and his name appears more than a million times in the unredacted Epstein files - i.e. if he’s not a fucking pedo, I’m the King of England. No blackmailer has anything on him that everybody doesn’t already know.
The thing is, there’s no public smoking gun evidence that would put him away for a long time. I think the fact that the unredacted Epstein files haven’t been released means that the evidence does exist, and the oligarchs are using that to manipulate policy. It’s likely policy that Trump himself already wants because he can profit off of it, but I do think there is kompromat out there that is being used.
Do you think there is anything unknown at this point that’d actually make a difference? Even saying Trump could rape a child live on Fox News wouldn’t hurt him is old hat now. I don’t buy into the idea that his voter base and staff will magically grow a conscience in response to…anything. The people opposed to him, is there something that gets them to actually organise and do something about the rot? I’m on the outside looking in so idk.
I think the problem is that the fraction of people you’re referring to absolutely would care had they not been basically trained to reflexively dismiss claims of wrongdoing against “daddy” as “fake news”. History is probably going to say trump was probably the most effective con man the world has ever seen.
I don’t think so. Trump is undoubtedly a con man. However, I think it’s going to be studies about the media and misinformation channels that dominate history books. Trump doesn’t have psychological insight. He acts on impulse and is a compulsive liar and narcissist. It’s how he was portrayed and how social media, in particular “engagement” driving views and clicks that will be studied. Obviously, the owners of these channels realised the power of the algorithm, just like previous oligarchs realised the value of newspapers and tv stations. It just became more hidden and personalised how we were being manipulated.
A guy held a sign in support of a Reform candidate in the UK saying he’d rather have Jimmy Saville than the other candidates and Reform voters are saying it’s AI. Reform is one of the fascist parties (and ahead in the polls).
You don’t think there’s maybe Israeli or Russian … or even CIA dossiers on Epstein/Trump, that include say, very explicit and direct photos or videos of Trump doing extremely illegal things to children…
… you know, the kind of things its Kash Patel’s job to censor and deny?
Epstein was basically into ‘triple agent’ territory, where he had so many allegiances and connections that he essentially had to start playing the intel game for himself, as himself.
To me it seems highly likely that much of the information on/around Epstein exists within Mossad, the FSB… they probably have a lot of the same stuff as what the FBI has, but of course, they have their own decision making process for what they would or would not publicize, deny, censor, etc.
Not many people with first hand knowledge and nobody prominent has revealed incontrovertible facts though. Anyone with half a brain who isn’t obsessed with his pumpkin-painted dumb face knows he is guilty, of course, considering he said he was “best friends” with JE during JE’s most unrestrained period. But still millions of people think there’s no evidence, and the admin is still suppressing over 3 million documents and redacted the rest to hell.
Well, like I said previously, since it’s just about impossible for ordinary folks to get the Epstein files released in full, we should all default to assuming all those mentioned in it are guilty - and since all those fuckers are rich and powerful and they can get the files released, if they want their names cleared, they can jolly well demand the release of the exculpatory evidence themselves.
And what’s blindingly obvious, starting with the one pedo who’s most mentioned in the files, is that they’re not exactly rushing to demand the truth set free…
I think he might be too narcissistic (and stupid) for blackmail. First off, he’d lie to the blackmailers and regardless, he’d tell somebody else about it. He is the proverbial chess pigeon.
The way blackmailing works is, the blakmailer threatens the blackmailee to reveal their secrets.
Trump’s secrets are already out there: he’s a convicted rapist and his name appears more than a million times in the unredacted Epstein files - i.e. if he’s not a fucking pedo, I’m the King of England. No blackmailer has anything on him that everybody doesn’t already know.
So no.
The thing is, there’s no public smoking gun evidence that would put him away for a long time. I think the fact that the unredacted Epstein files haven’t been released means that the evidence does exist, and the oligarchs are using that to manipulate policy. It’s likely policy that Trump himself already wants because he can profit off of it, but I do think there is kompromat out there that is being used.
Do you not realize, that there could be worse things out there of him? Unreleased and unredacted.
Do you think there is anything unknown at this point that’d actually make a difference? Even saying Trump could rape a child live on Fox News wouldn’t hurt him is old hat now. I don’t buy into the idea that his voter base and staff will magically grow a conscience in response to…anything. The people opposed to him, is there something that gets them to actually organise and do something about the rot? I’m on the outside looking in so idk.
Yeah, there’s a fair chance that he might be a murderer also. That’s also out there.
And not a single voter will care.
I think the problem is that the fraction of people you’re referring to absolutely would care had they not been basically trained to reflexively dismiss claims of wrongdoing against “daddy” as “fake news”. History is probably going to say trump was probably the most effective con man the world has ever seen.
I don’t think so. Trump is undoubtedly a con man. However, I think it’s going to be studies about the media and misinformation channels that dominate history books. Trump doesn’t have psychological insight. He acts on impulse and is a compulsive liar and narcissist. It’s how he was portrayed and how social media, in particular “engagement” driving views and clicks that will be studied. Obviously, the owners of these channels realised the power of the algorithm, just like previous oligarchs realised the value of newspapers and tv stations. It just became more hidden and personalised how we were being manipulated.
A guy held a sign in support of a Reform candidate in the UK saying he’d rather have Jimmy Saville than the other candidates and Reform voters are saying it’s AI. Reform is one of the fascist parties (and ahead in the polls).
i think if theres actual footage of him doing these things, tides turn quickly.
You mean firing up the disinformation machine? Yes.
Just think of all the videos of people being murdered by police and the ICE thugs, it wont amount to anything.
Do you not realize that anyone who doesn’t care about everything we already know, is just going to continue to not care?
Do you not realize that there were so many pages redacted, and it wasn’t just the victims?
Trump voters dont care if they are redacted or not. He is a cult leader. They will drink the kool aid because theyre narcissistics
Oh, I’m sure of it. The people who are going to care, already do, his sycophants will continue to support him NO MATTER WHAT.
True, evil people with money and money talks apparently.
So far he’s shown no sense of shame or even that his victims are people, and his followers don’t seem to care
You don’t think there’s maybe Israeli or Russian … or even CIA dossiers on Epstein/Trump, that include say, very explicit and direct photos or videos of Trump doing extremely illegal things to children…
… you know, the kind of things its Kash Patel’s job to censor and deny?
Epstein was basically into ‘triple agent’ territory, where he had so many allegiances and connections that he essentially had to start playing the intel game for himself, as himself.
To me it seems highly likely that much of the information on/around Epstein exists within Mossad, the FSB… they probably have a lot of the same stuff as what the FBI has, but of course, they have their own decision making process for what they would or would not publicize, deny, censor, etc.
Not many people with first hand knowledge and nobody prominent has revealed incontrovertible facts though. Anyone with half a brain who isn’t obsessed with his pumpkin-painted dumb face knows he is guilty, of course, considering he said he was “best friends” with JE during JE’s most unrestrained period. But still millions of people think there’s no evidence, and the admin is still suppressing over 3 million documents and redacted the rest to hell.
Well, like I said previously, since it’s just about impossible for ordinary folks to get the Epstein files released in full, we should all default to assuming all those mentioned in it are guilty - and since all those fuckers are rich and powerful and they can get the files released, if they want their names cleared, they can jolly well demand the release of the exculpatory evidence themselves.
And what’s blindingly obvious, starting with the one pedo who’s most mentioned in the files, is that they’re not exactly rushing to demand the truth set free…
They have pictures and videos of him raping and torturing small children. Possibly even eating them, if some rumors are true.
If you’re being blackmailed you also need to be worried about the consequences of the information being revealed, like legal consequences.
Trump dgaf about any of that, nobody’s prosecuting him for the existing things he’s done.
I think he might be too narcissistic (and stupid) for blackmail. First off, he’d lie to the blackmailers and regardless, he’d tell somebody else about it. He is the proverbial chess pigeon.